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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: relearning C: why does an in-place change to a char* segfault? Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 07:22:01 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <vd83pq$14kml$1@dont-email.me> References: <IoGcndcJ1Zm83zb7nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <v8fhhl$232oi$1@dont-email.me> <v8fn2u$243nb$1@dont-email.me> <87jzh0gdru.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <v8gte2$2ceis$2@dont-email.me> <20240801174256.890@kylheku.com> <v8i9o8$2oof8$1@dont-email.me> <v8j808$2us0r$1@dont-email.me> <864j7oszhu.fsf@linuxsc.com> <87o75vg9ot.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <86ikw1o0h8.fsf@linuxsc.com> <8734n5fjtq.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <868qvc62h7.fsf@linuxsc.com> <87a5fssb70.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 07:22:02 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7cd80ee5379c0a27173bfcdd9e5060bd"; logging-data="1200853"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/rz9ZsMHauR10HeZYD0rCu" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:+Izh+GxlOIsXKe6wK9IfPGYRloo= In-Reply-To: <87a5fssb70.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Bytes: 2904 On 28.09.2024 05:34, Keith Thompson wrote: > Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes: >> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes: >>>> The more C is changed to resemble C++ the worse it becomes. It >>>> isn't surprising that you like it. > > For context, since the parent article is from a month and a half > ago, I was discussing a proposal to change a future C standard to > refer to "constants" as "literals". I mentioned that I think it's > a good idea. I've heard of and seen various forms to name such entities... - in a Pascal and an Eiffel book I find all these named "constants" - in an Algol 68 book I read about "standard designations" - in a book about languages and programming in general I find "literals" ("abc"), "numerals" (42), "word-symbols" (false), "graphemes" (�), etc., differentiated - I've also have heard about "standard representations [for the values of a respective type]"; also a type-independent term I also think (for various reasons) that "constants" is not a good term. (Personally I like terms like the Algol 68 term, that seems to "operate" on another [more conceptual] abstraction level.) But you'll certainly have to expect a lot of anger if the terminology of some standards documents get changed from one version to another. Janis