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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Alternative to Optical Storage???? Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 12:44:36 +0100 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 56 Message-ID: <vd8q74$17d93$5@dont-email.me> References: <pan$c6999$ff62655a$6baa28da$29b62529@linux.rocks> <a2940540-2b0d-2d27-2e95-5ae00382ab2c@example.net> <pan$b6175$1a8d0f47$2f7bcd0a$6225aa31@linux.rocks> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 13:44:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="92a90caf65006c84dcecd3f39c660d74"; logging-data="1291555"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX188opoC7T5Pw1o9/0RVT0ZnsUqcUqs9Row=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:TYBRw/KP4oJ6VZFT8M0Jf3NI4Lw= In-Reply-To: <pan$b6175$1a8d0f47$2f7bcd0a$6225aa31@linux.rocks> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3272 On 28/09/2024 11:46, Nux Vomica wrote: > On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 00:13:51 +0200, D wrote: > >> >> Do you do restore tests regularly? If not, it could be that you might not >> have as many backups as you might think. =/ >> > > Yes. I will do a random sample on occasion, mostly to satisfy my curiosity. > Never had a problem. > > But most of this data is not critical for me. I could live without it > or it could be somewhat easily replaced. > > My e-books and music, however, are absolutely essential and must be > preserved. Fortunately, these collections are only a few Tb and I > simply make new copies from time to time. I also keep copies on > USB HDD external drives. > > What puzzles me is why hasn't implementing a viable long-term storage > solution become a top priority? Digital information is here to stay, > likely forever, and we need a way to preserve it forever without muss > or fuss. Because quite simply slightly volatile storage (SSD) is now WAY cheaper and more bit dense than anything else and is probably at least as good as a consumer written DVD. So the solution is permanently powered SSDs existing as multiple copies in multiple locations. Where is the original Bible backup kept? :-) Possibly very large laser burned spinning disks can do 4TB, but a set of say 4 drives to do it in two places is less than $500 And you simply keep replacing them as they fail with whatever is the latest technology. And copy the data over > > Unfortunately, consumer-grade optical storage technology is in the > hands of grubbing capitalists. As soon as sales fall by 10% they > will start to leave the market in search of a new fad. > No, it simply isn't something anybody is using any more YOU want a more permanent high capacity than a tape drive., well that is in fact a hard drive, or a USB SSD or whatever. DVD simply wont do the capacity, Nothing last forever, not even runes carved in stone. Where are the ten commandments now? -- To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.