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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Phys.org California dairy virus
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 08:58:15 -0500
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On 9/27/2024 3:26 PM, RonO wrote:
> On 9/26/2024 6:43 PM, RonO wrote:
>> https://phys.org/news/2024-09-bird-flu-outbreaks-california-dairy.html
>>
>> This Phys.org article has the most information on the Calif. 
>> situation. It was written earlier this week and has the old number of 
>> 34 infected herds (it was actually 36 listed at the USDA site) but now 
>> 6 more herds were added yesterday so the situation is even worse than 
>> they describe in this article.
>>
>> California is doing a better job of detecting herds at this time than 
>> other states because they claim to be tracing contacts and testing 
>> herds that share workers and equipment with infected herds.  That 
>> seems to be the reason that they are detecting so many herds, and they 
>> are detecting them before the herds show signs of infection.  It has 
>> been known for a long time that dairy workers were likely spreading 
>> the virus from farm to farm, but the USDA and CDC have been in deep 
>> denial, and refused to do contact tracing to demonstrate that they 
>> were wrong.
>>
>> This article claims that Calif. has evidence that cattle were 
>> illicitly brought back into Calif. from Idaho, but that doesn't make 
>> sense because the virus is closest in sequence to Colorado, and Idaho 
>> was infected before Colorado.  The Colorado virus is most closely 
>> related to the virus isolated from a Michigan dairy worker, so 
>> Colorado likely was infected from Michigan (my guess the Colorado 
>> virus was transmitted by a migrant infected dairy worker from Michigan 
>> because Michigan should not have been exporting cattle at that time 
>> due to USDA restrictions).  It will all be worked out once they do a 
>> phylogenetic assay of all the infected states.
>>
>> They still are refusing to test dairy workers, but they are trying to 
>> quarantine the farms and not allowing workers to move from an infected 
>> farm to other farms.
>>
>> Ron Okimoto
>>
> 
> In today's update the CDC has announced that 4 more Missouri health care 
> workers that had contact with the hospitalized patient exhibited 
> respiratory symptoms and they are being tested for H5 antibodies.
> 
> https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/h5n1-response-09272024.html
> 
> They should also test for N1 antibodies because they know that the 
> Missouri case had a virus with 2 amino acid substitutions in the H5 gene 
> that researchers are claiming reduces H5 antibody neutralization by 10 
> to 100 fold, so H5 antibodies may not be the best to test for in Missouri.
> 
> The USDA is also listing another herd in California identified after the 
> 6 earlier this week bringing this weeks total to 7 in California.
> 
> Ron Okimoto

The CDC is acting like creationist scam artists.  In their latest update 
on the dairy H5N1 influenza they emphasize "To date, only one case of 
influenza A(H5N1) has been detected in Missouri. No contacts of that 
case have tested positive for influenza A(H5N1)." even though they know 
that more contacts of the Missouri patient have exhibited symptoms. 
They know that 6 contacts have had symptoms, but only one of them were 
tested, and that is the reason that no contacts have tested positive.

https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/h5n1-response-09272024.html

Missouri should start testing their Dairy herds.  They already know that 
poultry farms have gone down with the virus in Missouri, and they know 
that poultry farms get the virus from dairies, most likely by dairy 
workers or their close contacts also working on the poultry farms.  They 
have to start a program like they have in California where they are 
testing dairies that have dairy workers in common with infected dairies. 
  California is currently identifying the most infected dairies.  It has 
been pretty obvious that dairy workers have been spreading the virus, 
but the CDC and USDA keep claiming that there isn't any evidence because 
they refused to start contact tracing like California.  California isn't 
even testing the dairy workers.  They are just assuming that they can 
transmit the virus, and determining that the workers are doing that by 
the infected dairies that they are detecting before the herds start 
showing symptoms.

Ron Okimoto