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From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: Steam Backs Down From Forced Arbitration
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 09:59:14 -0700
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On 9/28/2024 8:04 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 09:07:14 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
>> On 28/09/2024 01:32, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> 
>>>       [Fortunately, in many civilized --read, outside the USA--
>>>        jurisdictions, forced arbitration is either illegal or
>>>        greatly restricted. So if you're in the UK, Australia
>>>        or many countries of the EU, any EULAs either won't have
>>>        any forced arbitration clauses, or if they do, those
>>>        clauses are unenforceable]
> 
>> I did read about these rules in relation to Disney trying to claim that
>> as a husband had signed to to Disney+ many years ago he couldn't take
>> them to court after she died when they visited Disney World. My first
>> thought was, that's not a good look you're putting forward there Disney
>> and my second thought was, heh you can force people to go to
>> arbitration, how is that even legal.
> 
> Yeah, that's a really fascinating case. A woman died due to a severe
> allergy reaction at a restaurant on Disney grounds. The restaurant not
> only specified that their food was allergen free on their
> (Disney-sponsored) website, but assured the woman in person that the
> meal she ordered didn't have any of the forbidden foods in it. The
> family sued the restaurant (which was actually an independent company
> that was providing food services for Disney) for negligence, and
> Disney got roped into the case because Disney's website vouched for
> the restaurant.
> 
> Meanwhile, Disney argued that because the defendants had only found
> this information using their Disney account (it's a shared account
> that offers access not only to the Disney+ TV and film library, but
> also can be used for ticketing and reservations on Disney websites),
> the forced arbitration clause of Disney+ bound the people... despite
> the fact the actual reservation wasn't made through Disney+.
> 
> Elon Musk also tried to use forced arbitration on his (former) Twitter
> employees after they sued him for not giving them their severance
> payments in a timely manner. But, like Steam, he had to back down when
> the sheer number of arbitration claims made the costs skyrocket so it
> would have cost more than actually just paying the severance. (Musk is
> not the brightest of bulbs).
> 
I don't think Musk is stupid, he just has a colossal ego and is 
something of a bully.

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I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky 
dirty old man.