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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Gravitational red-shifting in the biggest star. What are the real colors? Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 22:43:22 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vd9plc$1cvm9$1@dont-email.me> References: <e92ea2a0a7546bace6a2ccea27d44d00@www.novabbs.com> <d53d725fd59b543ff824b3be8893ec92@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 22:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9cb9ddc0ce9c87e8be759b6ffbdf7e80"; logging-data="1474249"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18NT4ZnoFWUD9rpkEQ3f77q" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:MgsyB/cK7ZSifXRB8Ju0V1t+Zr4= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <d53d725fd59b543ff824b3be8893ec92@www.novabbs.com> Bytes: 2445 Den 28.09.2024 04:34, skrev rhertz: > This link illustrates a bit: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_redshift > > Using the most common formula from that link: "To first approximation, > gravitational redshift is proportional to the difference in > gravitational potential divided by the speed of light squared" > > Δf/f = Δλ/λ = z = GM/c² (1/R - 1/r) = Φ(R)/c² - Φ(r)/c² > > G = 6.6743E−11 m^3 kg^−1 s^−2 > M = 5E+09 x 1.989E+30 Kg = 9.945E+39 Kg > R = 1,700 x 634,000 Km = 1,077,800,000,000 m The mass is 'only' ~30 times the mass of Sun M = 30 x 1.989E+30 kg = 5.967e+31 kg > > > Φ(R)/c² = 6,842,736.59 > > In comparison, Φ(RSun)/c² = 0.000002327 > > > > At r = 10,000,000 R = 10,077,800,000,000,000,000 m > > Φ(r)/c² = 0.684273659 > > > Δf/f = Δλ/λ = z = 6,842,736 > > > The z-value can be expressed succinctly in terms of the escape velocity > at R, since the gravitational potential is equal to half the square of > the escape velocity, thus: > > z = 1/2 (v_escape/c)² > > v_escape = 3699.4 c > > But then, light can escape from UY Scuti. > > Yet, it was discovered in 1860. > > > > WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY CALCULATIONS, BASED ON THE WIKI LINK? -- Paul https://paulba.no/