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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 07:27:39 +0100 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 43 Message-ID: <vdas0r$1l4ch$7@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <1r0e6u9.1tubjrt1kapeluN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <llgckbF2sq0U3@mid.individual.net> <vcuupr$2pg09$1@paganini.bofh.team> <156256844.748909906.434683.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vd0p06$3knoh$6@dont-email.me> <1696219735.749088927.121438.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vd52jb$i6sg$7@dont-email.me> <99CJO.19678$MoU3.7045@fx36.iad> <1594132330.749154112.012403.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <BF4KO.179530$1m96.70407@fx15.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 08:27:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9cd59f7df64340ef02b99baedfd9e3b2"; logging-data="1741201"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/2n+jOW/NVsx0Ocj6x65adSTGIPgkmoCI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Tz3pT+4J6TEdHxgqFsi/0uVq3B8= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <BF4KO.179530$1m96.70407@fx15.iad> Bytes: 3211 On 29/09/2024 05:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2024-09-28, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 2024-09-27, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 17:52:04 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: >>>> >>>>> Another thing PL/I got from COBOL is “natural” string handling. Assign a >>>>> short string to a larger any the result is automatically blank-padded. >>>> >>>> That kind of misfeature is only needed in the sad world of non-dynamic, >>>> fixed-length strings ... >>> >>> Which for many of us was the only world that existed at the time. >> >> I think still does. You wouldn’t want to print too long a name on a check, >> for instance, just because your system allows it and some literal clerk >> just types in what they see. > > At a PPOE, my job title was "Programmer-Analyst". When squashed into > the 15-character field allocated for it in our payroll system, it became > PROGRAMMER-ANAL. > > I always felt this was appropriate. > We always called them ANAL PROGS -- If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels