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From: Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl>
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Subject: What 'new Torah' in Redemption could mean.
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 09:04:10 -0000 (UTC)
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title: Moshiach and The "New" Torah | Rabbi Yisroel Arye Gootblatt
source: Yisroel Arye
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl_JTwJL7ek
 
 Reply ...

The Rabbis changed the reading of the Torah: Rambam Shemita 10:8, prozbul,
heter iska, artificial new day moment to break the Shabbos. The Rabbis
/ Pharisees have overthrown: the return of the land in the 50th year
(the right to land for all), the debt nullification in the 7th year for
the poor, no rent seeking on loans and (believe it or not) the 7th day
rest was also overthrown by the Rabbis / Pharisees. 21+ centuries of
rebellion against the Torah, and no sign of ending it. Anyway, I could
speculate that a new Torah which is not new, could mean for example that
the Rabbis are overthrown by Israel, so that literally the new Torah
is the old Torah, but different from the destruction of the Torah which
the Rabbis have caused (overthrowing the Torah economy).

Then again, this doesn't entirely warrant the word 'new', does it. It
could also mean that the same actual principles (not Rabbisical principles
like Rambam's "principles of faith", but the _actual_ principles) behind
the Torah become known or at least partially known, and that this will
create a new inspiration to both understand and do the Torah given through
Moshe Rabbeinu, but perhaps also other creations of law and living based
on the same principles. Example: the _free right to land for all_ is
neither new nor unique to the Torah. Other Nations have done it, although
differently, and even more in the past the right to land was a natural
given. Hence you see how the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu implements this
principle of right to land with its Jubilee (overthrown by the Rabbis),
but if you understand the deeper principle behind the economics of it
(which are actually known already to humanity, but most people just don't
care to know), then you could make a system of law which is different
from the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, yet accomplishes the same objective.

I think the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu illustrates this itself, by
legislating for one tribe for the women to also have land. If the Torah
was some kind of magical formula, then you couldn't just do that, you
couldn't just change that. Everything would be completely fixated. But no,
not a problem: the women in that tribe can have land, even though the
other tribes live different. You see from this that there is a deeper
principle at work. I can pretty much guarantee you that if a tribe had
come to Jehoshua ben Nun and asked: can we please sell our land to each
other, so that the buyer may own it permanently, that the answer would
be "absolutely no, never". To allow markets in and in purpetuity is
a massive failure of thinking and understanding. The Torah also makes
that explicit: you shall not sell the land in perpetuity. You see that
they are implementing a principle, an understanding. They knew what they
where doing. Unlike the Rabbis, I guess.

The Rabbis have overthrown these laws, didn't understand what they
where doing, and are causing the exile. Israel needs to overthrow the
Rabbis, or at least Rambam and Hillel. Sorry if you don't like it, but
the truth is the truth. By the way, when I think about this 'moshiach'
deal, that everyone is supposed to "believe in him", I think this is
idolatry talking. It will probably be more like the law of Pythagoras,
about the square angled triangle. The law is called by his name,
and everyone knows it is true, but that doesn't mean we "believe in
Pythagoras". We just know that he had it right, that it is true. I think
it will and should be more like that. It isn't about the personality,
which the idolators always think that it is. It is just about the truth
which is already in the world, and it is true for everyone. Discovering
this law of Pythagoras doesn't make Pythagoras into a god or super human,
and we don't have to believe in this person in any way whatsoever, he
may even have been a bad person. It will be more like that, although
the idolators will probably love to play their games.

So, Israel, how about some Teshuvah ? I mean, Rabbis, how about some
Teshuvah ? Do you have any fear of heaven ? Aren't you afraid of being
wrong ? You think you can just mess up the Torah, the truth, and it will
all end well ? Who has the power in the world again: your or HKB'H. Why
are you not afraid of being wrong. Your God seems to have said: return to
him, and he will return to you. You don't have to be afraid of admitting
you have been wrong, you should be afraid of not admitting you have been
wrong. There is no way out of this for you, Rabbis. You will _always_
have been wrong with your Rambam, it will never change. You can never
make the lie become truth. You tried that for 21+ centuries, and it is
still as wrong today as it was then. You Israel, you the same, you listen
to these people like idolators listen to the priest cast of some random
statue. You have your own responsibility, as the Rabbi said: the Torah
is not in heaven, it is right in your hand, you know it and you can
do it. Hence you know that what I write here is the truth. You _know_
the prozbul is fraud. This guilt makes you liable. Don't make me quate
the punishment section again, ok ? Do Teshuvah, today, and who knows
you have just started the Redemption. Why not ?! Action please. Have a
guten shabbos.

Look, you can delay all you want, you can never change the Torah or the
truth, never. It is no use to hope the truth will go away, or that the
guilt of follownig Rambam will go away by itself, until you stop doing
it. That is the only way. Pythagoras also cannot force triangles to
do anything, he can only describe it and bow his head to what is the
truth. You are waiting on nothing, if you think Rabbinical frauds will
become truth. It will not happen. You are only hurting yourself with it.

   * End reply.

Continuing on Usenet ...

   The Rabbis drag Israel to hell.

It should not be underestimated, how much loss of Torah is created
within Israel, because of the additions made up by the Rabbis /
Pharisees to the Torah. They have made up so many additions, that it is
off putting.

On the other hand, they took away from the Torah, and that means the
Torah does not provide the Justice and Peace it can and should. For
example, it does not give you a real rest day anymore, and even if you
rest from work, the Rabbis make up so many additional rules to comply
with, that it just seems to become a full time job to be Jewish, even on
the 7th day. 

Walking around with a box tied to your head and pretending that this is
keeping the Torah, is just silly, isn't it. The Rabbis behavior can push
people away from the Torah entirely. You don't even get your freedom
anymore, which is your land, because they ruined that too.

Do not be surprised, if more than 95% of the Jewish people lay dead
within 20 years.

Germany: * After World War 1, 1919, Versaille treaty caused impossible debt.
           There was also a lot of war debt. There was also a lot of
           speculative debt in the 1920 Germany (IIRC).

       ! * Augest 1921, German central bank begins buying "hard cash" with
          "paper" (wikipedia, not necessarily trustworthy on this topic, but 
           who knows it might at least be true to a degree:
           en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

         * +3 years after wild money printing , 1924: currency crisis.

         * -1 to +9 years after wild money printing, Period of moral decay: 
           ... 'Roaring Twenties" ... (similar decay to what is currently 
           called LBGTQ+).

         * +8 years after wild money printing, 1929, Great Depression

         * +12 years after wild money printing, 1933 Hitler takes power,
           Holocaust starts.

         * +18 years after wild money printing, 1939 World War 2 starts

         * +22 years after wild money printing, 1943 height of the
           holocaust. Everyone who was against the corrupt and criminal
           banking system was being destroyed, the Jewish people as a
           whole where destroyed in the areas the Nazis occupied. USA
           ruling class helped the Nazis do it, which is now kept hidden
           for obvious reasons.

         * +24 years after wild money printing, 1945, end of World War 2.
           Russia defeats the Nazis. USA uses the opportunity to conquest
           much of Europe easily, pretending to be liberators, and then
           shielding a lot of top Nazis from Justice, while using certain
           Nazis again to set up the European Union (!), and to try to
           entrench their global super state 'United Nations". The war was
           a massive success for the USA. It made these Nazi financiers
           a global Empire. In Roman style, they denied it, pretending to
           bring civilization, while taking Tribute and soldiers for their
           campaigns from the conquered Nations. Just like Empires noted
           in the Torah, they labored to erase borders between Nations,
           attempting to rule them all. We see how real that is in our
           area. Literally the border between the Netherlands and Germany
           is as hard to see as the border between Dutch provinces. It is
           merely a road sign, as if you enter some village. (I crossed
           that border recently twice, on the bicycle.) Just adding
           this, so that you realize that this is not an Empire of peace
           and love. It is an Empire of lies, murder and looting, as
           usual. They just played it in such a way that they kept their
	   power, while the Russians played it differently, and then
	   they collased sooner.

From when money printing started, it took 24 years for the whole thing
to play out, and Germany suffered its greatest defeat, while the Jewish
people suffered the holocaust (being almost entirely wiped out in much
of Europe).

In the current environment, money printing started in 2008. It is now
2024, so that is (raughly) +16 years since money printing started. The
situation is of course different in many ways, although also similar 
in many ways. The Empire is much bigger (global), but it has
essentially the same economic and State system (Capitalist Parliament).
Will history move faster because technology has sped up everything ?
Will history move slower, because the Empire is so much larger ? Will it
move slower because there is more historical resistance to Fascism ?
Will it move faster because the criminals already had a round of
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