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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Gravitational red-shifting in the biggest star. What are the real colors? Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 13:42:18 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <vdbeas$1o2mt$1@dont-email.me> References: <e92ea2a0a7546bace6a2ccea27d44d00@www.novabbs.com> <d53d725fd59b543ff824b3be8893ec92@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 13:40:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cac71ec914306d04d76458e27b15e22d"; logging-data="1837789"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19G8uqa+HO8gSHCMBh4Pl4H" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5r+ecmhbGmJmh+6f4EWMP9ipdcM= In-Reply-To: <d53d725fd59b543ff824b3be8893ec92@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2330 Den 28.09.2024 04:34, skrev rhertz: > This link illustrates a bit: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_redshift > > Using the most common formula from that link: "To first approximation, > gravitational redshift is proportional to the difference in > gravitational potential divided by the speed of light squared" > > Δf/f = Δλ/λ = z = GM/c² (1/R - 1/r) = Φ(R)/c² - Φ(r)/c² Δλ/λ = GM/Rc² observed at infinity (r -> ∞) https://www.space.com/41290-biggest-star.html > > G = 6.6743E−11 m^3 kg^−1 s^−2 > M = 5E+09 x 1.989E+30 Kg = 9.945E+39 Kg > R = 1,700 x 634,000 Km = 1,077,800,000,000 m > > > Φ(R)/c² = 6,842,736.59 From whence did you get the idiotic idea that the mass of UY Scuti was 5 billion solar masses? :-D M = 30 solar masses = 5.967e31 kg R = 696340e3⋅1700 m = 57868e6 m c = 299792458 m/s Δλ/λ = GM/Rc² = 7.65e-7 Which is less than the red shift from the Sun. > > In comparison, Φ(RSun)/c² = 0.000002327 M = 1.989E+30 kg R = 696340e3 m Δλ/λ = GM/Rc² = 2.12e-6 > > WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY CALCULATIONS, BASED ON THE WIKI LINK? Now you know. -- Paul https://paulba.no/