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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: DFS <nospam@dfs.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Does Dimdows Know What Time It Is? Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 14:59:43 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vdc82s$1rmvl$1@dont-email.me> References: <vda0ko$1e457$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 20:59:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2f7a5f733fb06cddea710102418df2e2"; logging-data="1956853"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/KPBbcIXcUVzvLp5kDauTl" User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nO+Ee/0r+PCw9R9jwZrJTZUp4N8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vda0ko$1e457$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2672 On 9/28/2024 6:40 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > Something Unix did that was different from most other OSes was, its system > clock kept time in UTC (or GMT, in pre-UTC days). Linux does the same. > When you use a command like “date” to see what the current date and time > is, it converts that UTC time to a local time in some specified timezone. > Changing the timezone is as easy as specifying a new value for the TZ > environment variable. > > Windows, on the other hand, keeps its system clock in local time, in some > specific time zone that is assumed to apply systemwide. > > This is a particularly dumb idea when you realize how much it complicates > things if your time zone has daylight saving time. We have seen this sort > of thing happen on Windows systems before, where they might forget to > adjust the clock to start/stop daylight saving, or even adjust it twice so > you end up being an hour off in the opposite direction. > > This can’t happen on Linux systems, because there is no turning daylight > saving “on” or “off” as such: there is simply a table of local time > offsets (from the “tzdata” files), and the correct offset to apply depends > only on the actual UTC time value, not on the current setting of any > system flag. > > This also makes it easy to convert between UTC and local times at any time > in the past, for any time zone. I NEVER trust Linux to keep time. I've encountered several occurrences of it dropping 5-7 minutes over a 1-hour period. * user error * Linux is just the kernel * RTFM newb * Linux is perfect * you're lying * works for me * you have the source code, fix it yourself