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On 2024-09-29 16:04, Andrew wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 28 Sep 2024 21:18:44 GMT :
> 
>> Huh... Only a dozen non-Apple phones outlast Apple's "laughably puny el
>> cheapo battery" in the iPhone 16 Pro? But we've been told over and over
>> by Arlen and his little anti-Apple trollboi gang of losers that Apple's
>> batteries are complete shit! How can this be?
> 
> What none of the zealots understand is basic math, chemistry and physics,
> which the Apple zealots repeatedly claim doesn't apply to Apple products.
> 
> According to the zealots, basic math & physics doesn't apply to Apple
> batteries, which last forever (they never die in decades of use).
> 
> To ignore lifetime (which is measured in years, lest they keep talking
> about hours alone) and to ignore that the battery capacity is a key
> determinant of that lifetime (where capacity is measured in amp hours), 
> is how I can tell these zealots are claiming Apple batteries last forever.
> 
> They don't.
> They're just batteries.
> 
> Apple batteries follow all the laws of physics that other batteries follow.
> And the capacity is a critical determinant of the number of charge cycles.
> 
> Notice these Apple zealots only talk about hours, instead of charge cycles?
> That's because they're claiming Apple batteries = infinite charge cycles.
> 
> Anyone who talks only of hours of life without mentioning charge cycles, is
> claiming Apple batteries last forever since charge cycles don't matter.
> 
> They do.
> 
> Any discussion of "hours of use" without "charge cycles" is meaningless.
> 
> It's telling, actually, that both Apple slick advertisements and Apple
> zealots ignore that a fundamental determinant of charge cycles is capacity.
> 
> And iPhone batteries have the worst capacity of similarly priced phones.
> 
> Apple advertises an efficiency that is measured at 1 or 2 percent, which is
> great, but a couple of percent can't offset a 200% decrease in capacity.
> 
> That's just basic physics.
> The same basic physics that the zealots claim doesn't ever apply to Apple.

And charge cycles depend entirely on battery life per cycle.

So the phones that have the longest lasting batteries have the fewest 
charge cycles in any given time period.