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>On 9/29/24 12:53, citizen winston smith wrote:
>> On 9/29/2024 1:37 PM, Is Vance A Pedo? wrote:
>>> Vance pushed a pencil for a measly 3 months.
>> 
>> Sounds like Al Gore's typewriter in 'Nam tour to me.
>> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/7563930@N03/439124339
>
>It sounds to me like you are trying to be an idiot.
>J.D. Vance after High School enlisted in the USMC for 4 years,
>and served 4 years as an enlisted man.  He did all that his
>orders directed him to do.
>

Only traitors vote Trump.

Politics
Donald Trump's Military Cowardice Goes Beyond His 5 Draft Deferrals
He continuously disrespects those who actually served.
By Lincoln Anthony Blades
August 3, 2017
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Do Better is an op-ed column by writer Lincoln Anthony Blades that 
debunks fallacies regarding the politics of race, culture, and society � 
because if we all knew better, we'd do better.

When I look at President Donald Trump, I see a pot-bellied, 71-year-old 
man with a doughy frame. But in 1968, when he was a 22-year-old 
University of Pennsylvania graduate, Trump was a tall, fit athlete who 
played football, tennis, and golf. His age and clean medical history 
qualified Trump as a perfect candidate for the draft to serve in the 
United States Army and fight in the Vietnam War, but he avoided combat 
after receiving a 1-Y medical deferment, which he has said was due to 
"bone spurs in his heels." More than half a million American men were 
stationed in Vietnam by the end of that year, which was the bloodiest 12 
months of the conflict. On the day of Trump's graduation from the 
University of Pennsylvania, 40 Americans were killed in Vietnam, 
according to The New York Times.

The son of Fred Trump, a wealthy New York real estate developer, Donald 
Trump did what many other wealthy young men were allowed to do: He dodged 
the draft. Between 1964 and 1972, a few months before the draft ended, he 
received five deferments � in addition to his "bone spurs" claim, the 
other four were based on his educational status. He received two 
deferments while he attended Fordham University from 1964 to 1966, and 
two more after transferring to the Wharton School at the University of 
Pennsylvania.

As a draft dodger, Trump never knew the horrors of war, but in 1997, he 
laughed when telling radio host Howard Stern that avoiding sexually 
transmitted diseases was like his "personal Vietnam." "It is a dangerous 
world out there. It�s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam era,� 
Trump said to Stern, discussing his sex life. "I feel like a great and 
very brave soldier.�

Today, Trump struggles to recall the most basic facts about the medical 
condition that was the basis for his final deferment. He doesn't remember 
the name of the doctor who provided him with the note of proof and has 
repeatedly failed to provide a copy of it to The New York Times. He's 
also forgotten which of his heels had the spurs, now just claiming it was 
both. (During the 2016 presidential election, the affliction wasn't noted 
by Dr. Harold Bornstein, a physician who performed a physical on Trump 
and found that he had "no significant medical problems." in his medical 
history)

Unlike the 2,709,918 soldiers who fought in Vietnam, Trump never served. 
He wasn't injured like the 304,000 Americans who fought in the war, or 
among the more than 58,000 killed in combat. Despite this inexperience, 
he is now in charge of the U.S. armed forces, the Army, the Navy, the Air 
Force, the Coast Guard, and the Marine Corps as commander-in-chief. As 
president, he is tasked with dictating to all military generals and 
admirals which battles should be fought, where they should be fought, and 
who gets to fight in them on behalf of the United States.

He is certainly not the first American leader to receive draft 
deferments. Former vice president Joe Biden received five student 
deferments, former VP Dick Cheney received five deferments, and former 
president Bill Clinton received deferments and even penned a letter to an 
ROTC officer thanking him for "saving me from the draft." (It should also 
be noted that before Clinton's administration, LGBTQ servicemen and women 
were banned from serving. In his time, the military's "don't ask, don't 
tell" policy began, which forced them to conceal their identities or risk 
being discharged, effectively condoning discrimination.) This column will 
afford these men no absolution for their decisions, but what makes 
Trump's behavior obscene is that despite having never served, he has 
fashioned himself as the arbiter of military courage.

It was Trump who, as a presidential candidate in July 2015, dissed 
Senator John McCain, a former prisoner of war for roughly five and a half 
years during Vietnam, by stating, "I like people who weren't captured." 
He publicly disrespected Khizr Muazzam Khan and Ghazala Khan, the gold-
star Pakistani-American parents of Army captain Humayun Khan, who was 
killed in combat in 2004 and posthumously awarded a Purple Heart for his 
bravery. Not only did Trump attack an immigrant family who made a 
sacrifice for their adopted nation, but he even compared their loss to 
the "sacrifices" he made while becoming a real estate tycoon. To insult 
the family of Khan, who died at war at 27 � just two years older than 
Trump was when he received his 4-F classification, permanently 
disqualifying him from military service � by comparing it to his own 
business ventures is a claim only made equatable in the mind of a man 
with little recognition of his own internalized cowardice.

Now the president, the five-time draft dodger, is weakening the military 
to satisfy his own bigotry.

    https://twitter.com/pfpicardi/status/890220423367073792

 

    https://twitter.com/rob_bennett/status/892417583919624192

On July 26, he announced via Twitter that transgender soldiers would no 
longer be allowed to fight for their country, essentially promising to 
ban transgender people from serving. Reneging on a past campaign promise 
to support the LGBTQ community, he announced that he will reinstate a ban 
that was lifted by the Obama administration just a year prior, citing 
"military costs and disruption that transgender in the military would 
entail."

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/890193981585444864

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/890196164313833472