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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo Subject: Re: Where did Homo came from Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 10:46:13 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 58 Message-ID: <vddl05$25cpn$1@dont-email.me> References: <vd6bmu$fh4$1@sunce.iskon.hr> <vdb8eh$1n4oa$1@dont-email.me> <vdbnfg$cl6$1@sunce.iskon.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:46:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="03bfd01d14b684f2349b763ac64340de"; logging-data="2274103"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+5a6dkrfd5mEjkguZQoMVb" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:EYT3DeSteO64M7Rs287b9dur2DA= Bytes: 3989 On 2024-09-29 14:16:17 +0000, Mario Petrinovic said: > On 29.9.2024. 11:59, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-09-27 13:24:46 +0000, Mario Petrinovic said: >>> I noticed that there are, definitely, two types of Homo, the >>> eastern one, and the western one. I mean, this is obvious, eastern >>> people are shorter and have round heads, while western people are >>> longer, and have more narrow faces. >>> I also noticed that African people definitely belong to the >>> western type. Now, how can that be? Per standard view eastern type >>> arose from Africa. I don't think that's true. >>> The only logical explanation should be that Homo arose from >>> Euroasia. There we already had two types, Asian type is from around >>> China, the western type from the opposite end of Euroasia, from Europe. >>> Africa was completely separated from Euroasia, both, physically and in >>> population. So, in Africa we had Australopithecus. People in Euroasia, >>> because of its developed coastline, were very much in contact with sea, >>> while African Australopithecines were more inland. People in Euroasia >>> developed proper language (unlike Australopithecines), while people in >>> Africa lagged behind a lot in language. When Euroasian population >>> started to produce tools, the western type spread into Africa, >>> extincted Australopithecines, and this is how we got today's situation. >>> The difference between Africa and Euroasia (the interlocking >>> between humans and animals) is stunning. >>> This is Euroasia: >>> https://youtu.be/DsgbdtIUtyQ?si=3wWOTKmbKhE4n7_X >>> Two videos from Africa: >>> https://youtu.be/807VjIEOFzw?si=36bDIMtfB3E1VXYG >>> https://youtu.be/-WolhGgjKr0?si=Li-nN1xmka3k0srx >>> In other words, African people were white in Euroasia, and then >>> turned black in Africa, and not the other way around. Lol, our skin >>> even has the ability to turn brown if exposed to too much sun, it >>> doesn't have the ability to turn white, if there isn't a sun. >> >> When trying to find out the place of the origin, a good method is to find >> the least related subgoroups or individuals. Usually they are found at or >> near the place of the origin. In che case of Homo sapiens that place is in >> southern Africa. >> >> A large part of the differences between the African and other populations >> can be understood as adaptations to a colder climate. Likewise the >> differences between European and many Asian populations can be understood >> as adaptations to even colder climate. > > I don't get the first part of your answer. Strange. I don't see anything unclear in it. > The second part you are right, there are temperature adaptations. > But, in which direction, this isn't clear at all. I definitely agree > that East Asian people are adapted to the coldest climate. Sweating is an obvious adaptation to high temperatures. It is found in all humans but not much in other animals. -- Mikko