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From: Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl>
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Subject: Chabad Rebbe 'Schneerson' cannot be 'moshiach': followed Rambam.
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 08:29:16 -0000 (UTC)
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link: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/03bUsqNckP4
title: Who actually is The Moshiach? || Rabbi Dovid Vigler
source: @DovidVigler

   Some short video about 'moshiach'.

   Reply. 

The Rebbe is *absolutely not qualified* because he did not stand up
against the lies of the Rabbis / Pharisees: Rambam Mishneh Torah / Shemita
10:8, the _overthrow of the Jubilee_ (yes, you overthrew the Torah, proud
of yourselves? you caused the exile with these frauds). Prozbul, the
_overthrow of 7th year debt nullification._  Heter iska, the _overthrow
of rent seeking on loans with Jews._ Working on Shabbos, faking that
the day ends early in the evening so that you could breaki it. A day
goes from night sleep to night sleep, everyone knows that.

You don't care about the truth, that's why you are in exile, understand
? Rabbis even lied about how long Israel was in Egypt, claiming it to
be 210 years due to some geneology problems, but now it turns out those
can be solved differently, and the Torah would be right: 430 years in
Egypt. If you recalculate, assuming everything else was correct, we are
now at the end of the year 6.004 (!). Moshiach should already have come,
and probably was trying, but you hard necked Rabbis refuse to listen to
the truth, because you don't care.

This leads to the obvious question: why do the Rabbis of Israel not care
for the truth ? Are they fools ? I don't know, are you fools ? Are you
idolatrous, worshiping "Sages" now ? Or are you doing it for the money,
the grants and gifts from rich people who do not want to comply with
the economics of the Torahy.

It turns out than, that the Rabbis care a great deal abotu who is
'moshiach', because above all: it must be someone who ratifies the reign
and law breaking of the Pharisees / Rabbis. Otherwise, you would have to
bend your neck to the truth, and give up on your fraudulent Rambam. This
can of course never happen, the Rabbis have their pride to contend with,
their arrogance, their standing in the community, the money, the carreer,
and of course their ordination certificates. All this would crash so hard,
if it came to be known that Rambam is a liar, and Hillel the Elder was
a traitor. Your whole thing collapses, or it could.

You the Rabbis, rather have Israel face hell and destruction in the next
round of punishment, another holocaust 7 times worse than the Nazis (if
we go by the Torah, and obviously we should), than to admit to the truth
and return to the Torah, admit that you have been wrong and caused 21+
centuries of exile (!).

Such are the choices: either you are fools, or you are criminals. From
the looks of it, I have a hard time believing most of you are criminals,
but what do I know. It's hard to detect a criminal merely from their
appearance or talk. What do you want to be ? If you are fools, then
perhaps there is still hope for you all.

You don't get it, do you, that there is no way out for all of you, if
you don't want to do Teshuvah and return to the Torah. Yes you have to
admit that you are lawbreakers, you the Rabbis are the law breakers. Now,
rather than fret about it, also consider what it would mean if you did
Teshuvah. It's not that the non-Rabbis of Israel couldn't know, or did
better. Maybe some did, but on the whole it seems doubtful. Rather than
worry about the guilt you carry, which you the Rabbis carry one way
or the other whether you admit it to yourselves or not, imagine what
you could achieve with your Teshuvah. The first generation of Rabbis
to do Teshuvah, wouldn't that be amazing ? The first Rabbi or Rabbis,
to return, to stop lying, to stop being an idolator to Rambam and Hillel,
the first one to use their minds for more than 2 thousand years ! Perhaps
even the ones to whom the God of Israel will return in favor, imagine
what could happen. The Redemion could happen !

However, it looks like it is going to go this way: the Redemption
will come, because HKB'H is going to bring it one way or the other,
no matter how much the Rabbis can cause it to delay and hurt Israel in
the process. Oy oy oy how small of a minds you have, if you think the
Rabbi will be moshiach. You honest to goodness think that the whole world
should be turned into Chabadniks, and then we'll all wear boxes on our
heads pretending to care for the endless minutae of Rambam the babbler and
Hillel the faker ? This is not going to happen. If the Redemption has to
be brought _against_ the Rabbis, not with them but against, then that is
what will happen, and Rabbinical Judaism will disappear in a stronger way.

The "autists" have said that everyone who blocks the Torah for other Jews,
will be removed. It sounds to me like they could be talking about the
Rabbis of Israel, who are blocking and have overthrown the economics of
the Torah, which is an important part of the Torah. Remember the _slavery_
in Egypt ? That's an example of economics going wrong. Remember how
Moshe Rabbeinu proved himself ? He freed abused slaves. In a way, it is
all about the abuse of power, about slavery. From slavery, to freedom,
and to keep freedom you have to be good. Good what ? Have a sensible
functional economy, for one. You had it, in the Torah, but you ruined it.

What is it going to take, to overthrow the Rabbis of Israel, if you
are not going to do Teshuvah yourselves ? Do I have to write another
10 pages, to explain economics ? Isn't it obvious already ? Everyone
must have their land, and land is not the product of human work which
is why it doesn't work in a market _in perpetuity._ Raw land is your
starting point to work. This is nothing new, and even academia knows
it. If you investigate, then you will understand, it is hardly advanced
economics of any sort. In this great world of ignorance, only a few seem
to want to know, but that doesn't mean it is too complicated. Then you
will easily understand, if you have the honesty, that it was completely
wrong for the Jubilee to be stopped, and that the claim of Rambam (or
whomever he was copying), that the Jubilee only is active when all of
Israel is in the land, is a fraud and a lie. Even if there where mere 2
Jews or even any persons Jew or not, they would have to divide the land
fairly and not sell it ot each other. How awful, the ignorance of Israel,
and the consequences of it, especially for Israel.

Look pal, there is no way out for you all this way. You are not going
to overthrow heaven and their plans for this Earth, no matter how hard
your neck is. You can either comply, or deal with a force nobody can deal
with. If heaven decides this world will be good, nothing you do will be
able to stop that, understand ? You are only hurting yourselves. The
2nd holocaust, you could say it already started on "October 7th". For
already some 15 years or so, Israel pretends not to notice the truth,
and so do her Rabbis. It's Game Over time on Earth. Go learn about modern
technology, but everyone including you knows: the bombs get worse by
the decade. Game Over. Good or bad, what will it be ?

I guess I can try an answer: first bad, and then good. First bad, because
right now *today* the Rabbis of Israel refuse the truth, refuse to return
to the Torah, because of their pride, their arrogance, their foolsihness:
who knows, and it doesn't even matter. What matters is that the Rabbis
of Israel fail. The consequences are set to become horrific ... You have
been warned well in advance, and shown a way out.

Rebbe...lious people, hard necked people, idoltarous people: how much
longer will you tarry ?! Who cares who is the 'moshiach', it doesn't
matter who is yiour next idol. It matters what is the truth about how
things ought to work in a society, and that's all. Start caring about
reality and laws, rather than personality politics.


Judaism is pathetic, it's a hollowed out corrupt culture that once
was great. Like the autists said, you Israel have made a superficial
version of the Torah, without the heart or without enough of the heart,
so to say. You hollowed out the economics and hollowed out other things
as well, for outward appearances. This fake you made, is not able to
carry the weight of the Nation anymore, and thus you are in exile.

  *

  [Continuing on Usenet.]

Goodness sakes this 'moshiach' problem in the world, unbelievable.
Who the flip cares ? They must all be idolators, even to such a degree
that heaven may have decided the only way to get through to them, is to
play with their idolatry and change their religions to what they are
now. Then it all collapses into dust, when this 'moshiach' comes around
and says: there is no such thing as 'moshiach', what is happening is t
hat you are idolators, and you have been played. Now stop with the
crazyness, and become real people.

You've been had, idolators. You've been outwitted. The entire focus of
your idolatry, it was given for you to focus it unto an anti-hero of
sorts, to focus it on someone you know when you see it, is just another
human, and not this imagined hero or god you thought it would be. Then
if you notice, your idolatry will collapse into itself hopefully, and
you can hopefully free your mind of this mess you are creating in it,
this lower ranking monkey emotions which you have, and replace it with
what the mind may be for: to understand the world, live together
peacefully as friends, and to make it good for everyone.

Then the risk is that this 'moshiach' will become an idol after all, but
what really should happen is that you realize you have diseased yourself
in your minds with your idolatry, and also with this anger and fighting
against each other, the ignorance. It isn't so much that this 'moshiach'
is a god or super human, it is rather that you have demoted yourselves
with your ignorance, anger and evil, demoted yourself from what you can
and should be. If you stop ruining yourselves, then you become the
humans that you should already have been for a long time. We go from
being crazy and lost malfunctioning creatures, to being humans, just
ordinary humans I guess. Then we will all be equals under the same law,
and this 'moshiach' turns out, is just another one of the same. Just
merely someone who cares for the truth, and you can do that, perhaps
even better if given a few years to focus.

(Google/Youtube seems to have deleted this comment, although it first
seemed to post.)

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