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From: Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com>
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On 9/30/24 00:40, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:36:11 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
>>     There's always a psychology in the computer world that immediately
>>     embraces the "Newest/Greatest Thing"
>>     whether it's actually good/improved or not. Shit, I remember when 'C'
>>     was in that category ... that one DID hang on
> 
> That's something that's puzzled me all of my life and on a wider scale
> than computer languages. Why does Religion X survive while Religion Y,
> which is equally as plausible/implausible become an also ran? Why does C
> hand on while C++ never quite lived up to its promises? Why is Pike
> completely off the map? It isn't that bad of a C-like language?
> 
> Some things live the AC vs. DC wars have valid technological answers.
> Others like the i86 architecture seem more like accidents at a point in
> time.

	I dunno about Computer launguages but religions survive due to various 
factors. The Christian religion in Europe survived because its
converts were willing to murder adherents of other religions.
	In one case a noble family close to Royalty converter and
burned the royal family in their palace. In Eurasia the same could
be said of the Islamic converts. In India Hindu nationalists are
presently persecuting the adherents of Islam, Christianity and
any other none-Hindu religion. In some corners or ilands they even
persecute Buddhists. Early on in Japan about 600 CE the Buddhists
and the Shinto followers fought. When Christianity showed up in
the late 1500s  with the Portuguese traders and guns it took until 
around 1640s for the Shogunate to suppress it killing about 40,000
Christians. I think they crucified the missionaires. When the Emperor
was restored(as a front for the magnates) in the 1860s, State Shinto
was born and the Buddhists were expelled from their temples where
Shinto shrines had shared the space for hundreds of years. After 1945
things changed again and religious freedom was a change.
	The muscular Christianity of the 1600s in Japan was aimed at
converting the Japanese to a Catholic Dependency and the Shogun aimed
to the the sole authority in Japan.

	On the matter of the i86 remember the 4004 came first. There
is the matter of inheritance in product lines.

	bliss
	
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