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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: The best evidence for the ID scam
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 11:09:05 -0500
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https://evolutionnews.org/2024/08/william-dembski-whats-the-best-evidence-for-intelligent-design/

The Discotute thread had the claim that Bechly was the only ID perp left 
standing in his support for the creationist ID scam at the Discovery 
Institute.

Luskin put out the Top Six back in 2017 and claimed that other ID perps 
had been involved in picking them out.  There were obvious dissenters 
and Sewell removed Behe's IC flagellum, and the Cambrian explosion gap 
denial and Miller removed the Big Bang.

Klinghoffer likely doesn't like the fact that they were put up in their 
order of occurrence, so he is putting up what individual IDiots are 
claiming as the best one.  There are links to the articles Klinghoffer 
is talking about.

Dembski wants to go with the genetic machinery that is part of the #3 
The origin of life Top Six entry. and the two other creationists want to 
go with #2 Fine tuning.  Neither is support for the existence of an 
intelligent designer.  It seems sad that the bait and switch has been 
going down for over 2 decades and this is the best that they can come up 
with.  They need to do some validation and testing.  They need to figure 
out some means to determine if intelligent design was even involved in 
things like fine tuning when all that we know is that things just are 
the way that they are, and if some physical constants were different, 
things would be different.  The two IDiots claiming fine tuning claim 
that they can eliminate all other viable options leaving only 
intelligent design (god did it) as the explanation.  What kind of whack 
job would think that, that could be done?  That is the quality of their 
argument.  Such stupidity only passes peer review among IDiots.

Ron Okimoto