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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <vdf3oo$2cn51$3@dont-email.me> References: <uu54la$3su5b$6@dont-email.me> <87edbtz43p.fsf@tudado.org> <0d2cnVzOmbD6f4z7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <uusur7$2hm6p$1@dont-email.me> <vdf096$2c9hb$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 23:04:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a1a02b051aaecb67c07f3c0a04f3a680"; logging-data="2514081"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18f3/XXAhol1fIL1F12gcjc" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:s+wRpVIyZQ9Tlx3jYLpLpsvnrBo= Bytes: 1999 On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:04:54 -0000 (UTC), Bozo User wrote: > Perl is more awk+sed+sh in a single language. Basically the killer of > the Unix philophy in late 90's/early 00's, and for the good. That’s what Rob Pike said <https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/04/10/18/1153211/rob-pike-responds>: Q: “Given the nature of current operating systems and applications, do you think the idea of "one tool doing one job well" has been abandoned?” A: “Those days are dead and gone and the eulogy was delivered by Perl.” But I’m not sure I agree. Those small, specialized tools always required large, monolithic pieces under them to operate: the shell itself for shell scripts, the X server for GUI apps, the kernel itself for everything. So while the coming of Perl has changed some things, it has not made a difference to the modularity of the Unix way.