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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:52:21 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <vdf6ik$2cn51$14@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <36KdnVlGJu9VLW77nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <IfZIO.214180$FzW1.122138@fx14.iad> <ZLecncKpCfSfT2n7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <ZOfJO.194439$kxD8.179224@fx11.iad> <nOWcncO0uZgZyWv7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <79CJO.19676$MoU3.9722@fx36.iad> <lbmcnV0rM4Aq_Wr7nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> <20240930103650.00003985@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 23:52:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a1a02b051aaecb67c07f3c0a04f3a680"; logging-data="2514081"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19mTN+ZKCO+Zm0K8bNfJr4K" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6zrSyuILV5UlKxZdM90AwaOfE74= Bytes: 2382 On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 10:36:50 -0700, John Ames wrote: > It's always struck me as funny that nobody *ever* seems to use the ASCII > control characters that already exist for record demarcation for that > purpose ... Pick did, I believe. > ... aside from CR/LF/tab/NUL, and BEL/SUB/ESC in interactive- > terminal contexts, the whole 0x00-0x1F range might as well not exist. Terminal systems do make use of other characters for various purposes, e.g. CTRL/C for interrupt, CTRL/O to discard output etc. I tried to get a discussion going on this subject in alt.folklore.computers a few months ago <https://alt.folklore.computers.narkive.com/5xa8qoJG/origins-of-control-characters>. > Not that it'd be a conspicuously *good* idea, but I've always harbored > an impish desire to devise a format that makes use of the rest in some > way that maps relatively logically to the original intent/description... You really have to wonder that that original intent was in some cases, though ...