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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi Subject: Re: Spontaneous locale change on Bookworm Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 23:16:58 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <vdfbha$2dsh2$1@dont-email.me> References: <vcmq6m$1l88o$1@dont-email.me> <vd37qn$42ro$3@dont-email.me> <vd4g04$bqo9$2@dont-email.me> <vd4gmg$c3jf$4@dont-email.me> <vd62vk$mdr9$3@dont-email.me> <vd7dol$tdq8$2@dont-email.me> <4a337e535098c961bc9ac5767951350c18cecc2d.camel@munted.eu> <AF4KO.179528$1m96.59033@fx15.iad> <wwvzfnqlvas.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vde54u$27ol9$2@dont-email.me> <fe229da85b.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM> <vdf669$2cs18$3@dont-email.me> <vdf7d4$2cn51$18@dont-email.me> <vdf7vl$2cs18$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 01:16:58 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="45d68bef63035d0f49773effd7a1ab82"; logging-data="2552354"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18MimY/u0AbLaEUYD4Req9j" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NyAOpwNN289fSkdPvQ2drvDGkmM= Bytes: 2421 On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 23:16:21 +0100, Pancho wrote: > On 9/30/24 23:06, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 22:45:45 +0100, Pancho wrote: >> >>> One assumes time is well ordered, so even if I don't know what the >>> least century is, I know there was one. >> >> Integers are well ordered, but there is no least integer. >> >> > No they aren't, precisely because the don't have a least integer. > Perhaps you are confusing having a total ordering with well ordered? You were the one who used the term “well ordered”, and then said that, because of this, there had to be a least century. >> All we want, I think, is a zero point far enough back that there is >> less real-world need to deal with negative time points. > > That is basically what well-ordered implies. Obviously I was > bullshitting as I have no idea if time is totally-ordered, let alone > well ordered :-). Einstein’s Special Relativity says time is not totally ordered, unfortunately ...