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badgolferman wrote on Mon, 30 Sep 2024 22:27:14 -0000 (UTC) :

>> The fact is Apple batteries must follow the same laws of physics as other
>> batteries, and the fact is the Apple batteries are of an el cheapo design.
>> 
> 
> It's been exactly two years since I got my iPhone 14. The maximum battery
> capacity is now at 86%. The phone still lasts an entire day despite all the
> online backgammon that I play. I don't know if that's good or bad, but it's
> certainly better than previous iPhones I've had.

Hi badgolferman,

Remember I got the free Androids and iPHones from T-Mobile (as you did),
about three and one-half years ago, right? (April 2021).

And while my 5 Amp Hour battery on my free Android is still going strong, 
I'm sure what you say is correct, so I believe you, a priori, BECAUSE you
act in good faith, with sincere honest goals, sans hypocrisy or mendacity.

As a result of your straightforwardness, I speak with you quite differently
than I speak with the unscrupulous zealots, whom I have to be explicitly
black and white with - because they're so incredibly deceitful people.

The fact is The iPhone 14 is NOT on the EU listing of acceptable phones by
overall long-term battery life. The iPhone 15 is. As is the iPhone 16. 

You can make whatever you want of that information, but Apple sure isn't
advertising that they had to increase the battery (and change the charge
cycle calculation) in order to meet MINIMUM EU battery-life standards.

By battery life I'm not talking about hours per day (which is meaningless);
but in years, which is something the dishonest zealots can't understand. 

The point to the zealots is that Apple barely meets the battery longevity
standards (which measures to the 80% loss in 500 charge cycles metric).

Any phone not meeting those *minimum* EU standards can't be sold, which,
let's be frank, is almost every iPhone out there that Apple has ever sold.

Don't you wonder *WHY* Apple increased the capacity suddenly?
No?

You gotta realize cheap crappy batteries is all part of Apple's strategy.
They only increased battery capacity to the minimum because they had to.

Think of the bad press when word gets out Apple iPhones have such crappy
batteries that they can't be sold in the EU while Android easily can be.

All the Android phones at that price range not only meet the EU's minimum,
but some exceed that minimum battery lifetime by more than double the
charge cycles.

The simple math these Apple zealots can't understand is that a battery that
lasts for a week but which is dead in 5 charge cycles won't last a year.

The zealots only know what Apple advertises, and Apple never advertises
that it has the lowest lifetime of all phone batteries in its class.

That was my main point.

The primary determinant of battery life is charge capacity.
The secondary determinant of battery life is charge cycles to 80%.
And a tertiary determinant is the almost meaningless daily life.

You can understand that concept, I hope.
The ignorant deceitful duplicitous Apple zealots will never get it.

They can't fathom that Apple iPhones don't meet minimum standards.