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On 10/1/2024 12:06 AM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 9/30/2024 3:35 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 19:01:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> In WSL, on the other hand:
>>>
>>> Judging from your example of a diehard Dimdows fanatic who can no longer
>>> get through their day
>>
>> "his" day.  Never ever call me a "they", bozo, or I'll send Joel Crump
>> around to your place sniffing for your 'girl cock'.
> 
> 
> Relax, Beavis.  Using "they" in passing is very common, today.


Not when you know you're addressing a sane person.


>>> without resorting to Linux,
>>
>> A last resort.
>>
>> For a while now I used Linux only for wget, because the GNU for Windows
>> binary of wget was so old.  2008ish.
>>
>> But I tried it, and it works fine other than it usually requires the
>> --no-check-certificate flag on the websites I'm downloading.
> 
> 
> So, admitting that Winblows really does blow.


It's a wget/developer issue, not a Windows issue.  The port of wget to 
Windows I use was last updated in 2008.

https://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm


But I just now found what looks like a more recent version
https://eternallybored.org/misc/wget/

-------------------------------------------------------------
$ wget --version
GNU Wget 1.21.4 built on mingw32.

+cares +digest +gpgme +https +ipv6 +iri +large-file +metalink -nls
+ntlm +opie +psl +ssl/openssl

Wgetrc:
     C:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/etc/wgetrc (system)
Compile:
     x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
     -DSYSTEM_WGETRC="/opt/misc-x64/etc/wgetrc"
     -DLOCALEDIR="/opt/misc-x64/share/locale" -I. -I../../src -I../lib
     -I../../lib -I/opt/misc-x64/include
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include -DCARES_STATICLIB
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include -DPCRE2_STATIC
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include -DHAVE_LIBSSL -I
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include -DNDEBUG -ggdb
     -mtune=broadwell -mtune=znver2 -O2 -pipe
Link:
     x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include -DCARES_STATICLIB
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include -DPCRE2_STATIC
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include -DHAVE_LIBSSL -I
     -IC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/include -DNDEBUG -ggdb
     -mtune=broadwell -mtune=znver2 -O2 -pipe -L/opt/misc-x64/lib
     -LC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/lib -lmetalink
     -LC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/lib -lcares
     -LC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/lib -lpcre2-8
     -LC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/lib -lidn2
     -LC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/lib64 -lssl -lcrypto -L -lz
     -LC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/lib -lpsl -lws2_32 -lole32 -lcrypt32
     -lexpat -LC:/msys64/qemu/opt/misc-x64/lib -lgpgme ../lib/libgnu.a
     -lws2_32 -lws2_32 -lws2_32 -lws2_32 /opt/misc-x64/lib/libiconv.a
     /opt/misc-x64/lib/libunistring.a /opt/misc-x64/lib/libiconv.a
     -lws2_32

Copyright (C) 2015 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
<http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Originally written by Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@xemacs.org>.
Please send bug reports and questions to <bug-wget@gnu.org>.
-------------------------------------------------------------

Definitely a much newer version.  And it works without the 
--no-check-certificate flag.  Amazingly, the executable above is 21x 
larger than the original.


Hey, see what I did there?  I added terminal output directly into a 
Usenet post.  Mind = blown.



 >>> the day can’t be far off before WSL2 becomes a mandatory part>>> of 
a Dimdows install.
>>
>> Keep hope alive!
> 
> 
> Microsoft Windows on a computer you keep a long time, 

I ran my last system ~12 years.  Same mobo and case and power supply, 
but upgraded the RAM and video card and storage and monitor.


> depending on that arbitrary, aging version,

meaningless babble

Keep this in mind: most of the world will use desktop Windows their 
entire lives.



> until your computer finally blows its brains out.

ha!  So far my Windows systems exhibit no suicidal ideation.


> I choose Linux.

And Wine to run Windows apps.

I'm just not close to being willing to give up MS Office, Notepad++, 
SumatraPDF and other apps in exchange for the Linux alternatives.  FML 
if I was ever forced to use LibreOffice and Thunar every day - that is 
some seriously craptastic software.