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Subject: Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 20:18:28 -0000 (UTC)
usuario <anthk@disroot.org> boring babbled:
>El Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro escribió:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:04:54 -0000 (UTC), Bozo User wrote:
>> 
>>> Perl is more awk+sed+sh in a single language. Basically the killer of
>>> the Unix philophy in late 90's/early 00's, and for the good.
>> 
>> That’s what Rob Pike said
>> <https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/04/10/18/1153211/rob-pike-
>responds>:
>> 
>>     Q: “Given the nature of current operating systems and applications,
>>     do you think the idea of "one tool doing one job well" has been
>>     abandoned?”
>>     A: “Those days are dead and gone and the eulogy was delivered by
>>     Perl.”
>> 
>> But I’m not sure I agree. Those small, specialized tools always required
>> large, monolithic pieces under them to operate: the shell itself for
>> shell scripts, the X server for GUI apps, the kernel itself for
>> everything. So while the coming of Perl has changed some things,
>> it has not made a difference to the modularity of the Unix way.
>
>The shell could be changed as just a command launcher with no 
>conditionals, while perl doing all the hard work.
>
>On X11/X.org, X11 was never very "Unix like" by itself. 

An X server is about as minimal as you can have a graphics system
and still make it usable. I don't see how it could have been
subdivided any further and still work.