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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:30:03 +0100 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vdj7bb$35p9c$26@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <1r0e6u9.1tubjrt1kapeluN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <vcuib9$37rge$5@dont-email.me> <vcvuhh$3hroa$2@dont-email.me> <llhieuF8ej2U2@mid.individual.net> <20240925083451.00003205@gmail.com> <Pascal-20240925164718@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <mdd4j63pmo1.fsf_-_@panix5.panix.com> <oJ-cnQSrLZDYdGX7nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdatb6$1l4ch$8@dont-email.me> <vdauah$1lq1u$1@dont-email.me> <lltt6uF4fseU4@mid.individual.net> <vdcn1q$1tmdr$5@dont-email.me> <vddqoe$264fi$2@dont-email.me> <vdf4le$2cn51$6@dont-email.me> <vdh2l1$2p7e2$1@dont-email.me> <vdh3ku$2path$1@dont-email.me> <702010876.749514168.626514.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2024 12:30:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bac04660cf75619118ac0ef002482041"; logging-data="3335468"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1992zMqH1ye9zO9yU9yiwF1P1OwvVEzNGQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:0mfmyOfjKu41rHJPkPK6v7jZx+Q= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <702010876.749514168.626514.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> Bytes: 3026 On 01/10/2024 23:39, Peter Flass wrote: > That’s one of the things I dislike about C. It can obfuscate a simple > operation like that. Maybe in the days to 10CPS TTYs terseness had it’s > usefulness, but it’s been long since time when it’s been better to write a > bit more in the interest of readability. I agree, but having worked on 10CPS TTYS, one appreciates 'ls' instead of listFiles Now as far as I am concerned using a ? operator is to me no harder to understand than the word obfuscate. Its in the region of languages I know well. But there are some C syntaxes possible that are very hard for anyone except the compiler to follow. I never managed to successfully declare an array of pointers to functions returning an integer. But that might have been the primitive compilers. -- "The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." - Leo Tolstoy