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Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:34:39 +0100 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 29 Message-ID: <vdj7jv$35p9c$27@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <1r0e6u9.1tubjrt1kapeluN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <vcuib9$37rge$5@dont-email.me> <vcvuhh$3hroa$2@dont-email.me> <llhieuF8ej2U2@mid.individual.net> <20240925083451.00003205@gmail.com> <Pascal-20240925164718@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <mdd4j63pmo1.fsf_-_@panix5.panix.com> <oJ-cnQSrLZDYdGX7nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdatb6$1l4ch$8@dont-email.me> <vdauah$1lq1u$1@dont-email.me> <lltt6uF4fseU4@mid.individual.net> <vdcn1q$1tmdr$5@dont-email.me> <vddqoe$264fi$2@dont-email.me> <vdf4le$2cn51$6@dont-email.me> <vdh2l1$2p7e2$1@dont-email.me> <vdh3ku$2path$1@dont-email.me> <702010876.749514168.626514.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <L70LO.225438$kxD8.158900@fx11.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2024 12:34:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bac04660cf75619118ac0ef002482041"; logging-data="3335468"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/AW32la7rLWTpGFj0gVMwuXz70+BvllbI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8oC3fbnjL4vgZibj0BDol5J7nQw= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <L70LO.225438$kxD8.158900@fx11.iad> On 02/10/2024 01:06, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2024-10-01, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> That’s one of the things I dislike about C. It can obfuscate a simple >> operation like that. Maybe in the days to 10CPS TTYs terseness had it’s >> usefulness, but it’s been long since time when it’s been better to write a >> bit more in the interest of readability. > > "My language is so readable that comments aren't necessary!" > And that is the rub. By the time you have commented the terse statement you might as well have written the longer self explanatory one... > And, of course, COBOL could never have been described as terse. > COBOL was something that could be taught to relative numpties. Grace designed it that way on purpose. Remember she was a military girl, and had to deal with matelots and other simian life. And the COBOL programmer was expected to be given a spec saying 'for every employee, get his hours worked and multiply by his salary rate and put it in his pay packet' -- “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.” ― Groucho Marx