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Subject: Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 12:52:03 -0000 (UTC)
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El Wed, 2 Oct 2024 07:10:32 -0000 (UTC), Muttley escribió:

> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 20:18:28 -0000 (UTC)
> usuario <anthk@disroot.org> boring babbled:
>>El Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:04:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro escribió:
>>
>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:04:54 -0000 (UTC), Bozo User wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Perl is more awk+sed+sh in a single language. Basically the killer of
>>>> the Unix philophy in late 90's/early 00's, and for the good.
>>> 
>>> That’s what Rob Pike said
>>> <https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/04/10/18/1153211/rob-pike-
>>responds>:
>>> 
>>>     Q: “Given the nature of current operating systems and
>>>     applications,
>>>     do you think the idea of "one tool doing one job well" has been
>>>     abandoned?”
>>>     A: “Those days are dead and gone and the eulogy was delivered by
>>>     Perl.”
>>> 
>>> But I’m not sure I agree. Those small, specialized tools always
>>> required large, monolithic pieces under them to operate: the shell
>>> itself for shell scripts, the X server for GUI apps, the kernel itself
>>> for everything. So while the coming of Perl has changed some things,
>>> it has not made a difference to the modularity of the Unix way.
>>
>>The shell could be changed as just a command launcher with no
>>conditionals, while perl doing all the hard work.
>>
>>On X11/X.org, X11 was never very "Unix like" by itself.
> 
> An X server is about as minimal as you can have a graphics system and
> still make it usable. I don't see how it could have been subdivided any
> further and still work.

Check out Blit under Unix V10 and Rio under plan9/9front for a much better 
Unix-oriented (9front/plan9 it's basically Unix philosophy 2.0) approach.