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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Does Dimdows Know What Time It Is? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:09:04 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 106 Message-ID: <vdjglf$37qau$8@dont-email.me> References: <vda0ko$1e457$1@dont-email.me> <vdc82s$1rmvl$1@dont-email.me> <hwmKO.36384$afc4.11514@fx42.iad> <vddgqf$24oap$1@dont-email.me> <bfyKO.37639$afc4.24519@fx42.iad> <vdg0pn$2k2ps$1@dont-email.me> <bmSKO.243830$v8v2.80772@fx18.iad> <vdjdo8$37qau$2@dont-email.me> <5kbLO.27540$MxR.15067@fx47.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2024 15:09:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="12b7937eb0aa246721a062fcaa1e8709"; logging-data="3402078"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19/7N8wvIGajQQujgEJteXo" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NSSDSm7TCNWCWOCxuyWVSuvGfQw= Bytes: 7493 On 2024-10-02, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2024-10-02 8:19 a.m., RonB wrote: >> On 2024-10-01, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> On 2024-10-01 1:19 a.m., RonB wrote: >>>> On 2024-09-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 2024-09-30 2:34 a.m., RonB wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I've never had any issues with Linux keeping time, my Linux computers >>>>>> automatically change on cue with my cell phones. But I just do the standard >>>>>> install, I don't screw around with it. And it handles daylight savings time >>>>>> changes on its own. Maybe DuFuS's choice of NTP servers suck. He seems to >>>>>> have a lot of trouble with Linux that no one else ever has. >>>>> >>>>> Not true, I have it too. I am reminded of how often Linux Mint and >>>>> Ubuntu froze during the last year on this machine to discourage me from >>>>> trying it again. At the same time, when I conveniently destroyed my >>>>> laptop's motherboard one day before the warranty ended and had it >>>>> replaced, there is a possibility that I might have replaced what was >>>>> causing the issue. >>>> >>>> Yeah, but you're trying to play Windows video games in Wine, which adds a >>>> whole new layer of complications. I, personally, don't recommend Linux for >>>> people who play Windows video games. It seems to create a constant stream of >>>> frustration for them. >>> >>> Games were only a serious issue in 2013. At this point, they run rather >>> well and I can live with a few FPS less. What I can't live with is the >>> computer suddenly freezing when I'm doing the most mundane of things. At >>> home, it's a mild nuisance; at work, freezes cause laughter from the >>> kids and being forced to find my way back to where I was because the >>> people developing Linux can't get their act together and prioritize >>> stability over gender theory becomes a serious problem. Since this >>> machine is both my home and work computer, I am not willing to take too >>> many chances. >>> >>>>> You have to work>>> pretty hard on Linux to get it to NOT work. It >>> looks like DuFuS puts in that >>>>>> needed time. >>>>> >>>>> I disagree. I've repeatedly decided to throw myself head first into an >>>>> experience that was solely Linux only to find out that there were going >>>>> to be certain issues. I had serious slowdowns and screen tearing in 2013 >>>>> with gaming, I had random freezes in the last year, I've had >>>>> suspend/wake issues throughout and in the last year (the only machine I >>>>> owned which never had this problem with Linux is my 2006 Dell). Problems >>>>> aren't hard to find. One must really be dedicated to the idea of getting >>>>> rid of Windows to disregard them. >>>> >>>> Problems are almost impossible for me to find in Linux. But I'm using >>>> standard Dell business machines, running Intel GPUs and not poisoning my >>>> Linux install with Windows Wine crap. So that may be why I have no trouble. >>>> >>>> The only real trouble I've had with Linux, on any machine in the last couple >>>> years, was trying to install Linux on an HP EliteBook 8640p with a >>>> semi-locked BIOS (you can get to some of the features). My nephew found it >>>> in a dumpster at work and sent it to me because... (I have no clue). Linux >>>> Mint and Ubuntu install, but they won't boot. Strangely enough KDE Neon >>>> installs and works without issue. So, if someone can explain that one to me, >>>> I would be interested to hear why. If I could get into all the BIOS settings >>>> I'm sure I could get it working on Linux Mint. So, in this case, I had to >>>> work pretty hard to find a (crippled) laptop where Linux Mint wouldn't >>>> install and work on. >>>> >>>> And, BTW, the computer goes to sleep and wakes fine when opening and >>>> closing, even in KDE Neon. >>> >>> I have yet to own a machine other than the Dell I bought in 2006 that >>> didn't have suspend issues in Linux. I'm sure that I will eventually own >>> one, but it's becoming something of a needle in a haystack situation. >> >> Unfortunately a lot of the newest Dell laptops (at least the thin, higher >> end ones) have gone the MacBook route, soldered on RAM and SSDs. So, most >> likely, I'll be using older computers for the rest of my life. I don't like >> not being able to upgrade. > > I'm not a fan of the soldered crap either. Apparently, even the latest > edition of this laptop line went that route. This one is particular in > that it originally had 8GB of RAM soldered and another 8GB. You could > upgrade as much as you wanted, but that first 8GB needed to remain. When > they switched the motherboard for me, they gave me one with 16GB > soldered on it, so I suppose that they got rid of the 8/8 combination in > favour of a 16/0 one. Either way, at least there was an option to > upgrade. I think the new Zephyrus G14s don't even have that extra slot > anymore. > > Unfortunately, most people don't realize what kind of pit they'll be in > if their beloved MacBooks get to the limit of writes on their storage or > if the RAM suddenly becomes defective. On a traditional laptop, you > replace what's broken and you're good to go, but with the MacBook > formula, you have no choice but to sell it for parts if your warranty is > finished unless you want to pay as much in repairs as you would on a new > machine. Even selling for parts is useless now since the Mac won't work > right if one of the pieces is different than what the machine had > originally. Apparently, it screws up if it doesn't have the right serial > number. A few guys on YouTube replaced the screens on two identical > MacBooks with the other and it immediately caused problems, so they > clearly don't care about allowing you to repair your device. I'm not fan of Apple's control freakness either. And I don't like that Dell (and the others, I believe) are following in their footsteps. I think the object is an attempt to force a new computer on you every four years, or so. Built in obsolescence. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien