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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: (ReacTor) When Did SFF Get Too Big? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:36:27 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <vdjlpc$3902t$1@dont-email.me> References: <vd40vt$ss3$1@reader1.panix.com> <vd4g91$c3ab$1@dont-email.me> <vd4snd$docq$1@dont-email.me> <pan$56ee4$d645566b$59a52e94$f0af4f6f@cpacker.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2024 16:36:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9efb88b59feb7798fd9efd85226f3827"; logging-data="3440733"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX186X+gbQ+mrAe6PPlmP2JxTiMilljZVae4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:0F166TdMe9EOmpOBIFcoz8GnU3g= In-Reply-To: <pan$56ee4$d645566b$59a52e94$f0af4f6f@cpacker.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3139 On 10/2/2024 3:27 AM, Charles Packer wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 20:02:52 -0400, Ahasuerus wrote: > >> >> On a more serious note, Earl Kemp's comment: >> >> > I knew everything that was being published and read everything up >> > until the 1940s >> >> makes a good deal of sense. As I wrote back in March, there were only 3 >> stable science fiction monthlies between mid-1930 and mid-1938: >> *Amazing*, *Astounding* and *Wonder* (*Thrilling Wonder* after 1936.) >> >> Things began to change in mid-1938 with the launch of *Marvel* and then >> the Golden Age started in 1939: *Planet Stories*, *Captain Future*, >> *Startling Stories*, *Dynamic*, *Famous Fantastic Mysteries*, *Science >> Fiction*/*Future Fiction*, *Strange Stories*, *Uncanny Tales*, *Marvel >> Science Stories*, *Fantastic Adventures*, *Science Fiction Quarterly*, >> *Super Science Stories*, *Astonishing Stories*, *Cosmic Stories*, >> *Fantastic Novels*, *Stirring Science Stories*, *Unknown*. >> >> Even if you skipped the reprints (some magazines specialized in >> reprints), there was a significant amount of SF content being published >> every month. > > > Looking at the Google Ngram for the category English Fiction > (using "planet" as a proxy for SF) I see a distinct bump at 1940. > > https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph? > content=planet&year_start=1900&year_end=2019&corpus=en- > fiction&smoothing=0&case_insensitive=false > > Shortened: https://tinyurl.com/c67kwdj2 > > Could that be explained by what you have listed? Then I wonder > what the bump at 1930 is. It may be related to the timeline of the Gernsback era: 1926, April: _Amazing_ 1929, June: _Science Wonder_ 1929, July: _Air Wonder_ 1930, January: _Astounding_ 1930, June: _Air Wonder_ and _Science Wonder_ merge to become _Wonder Stories_, which becomes _Thrilling Wonder Stories_ in August 1936 The peak during the early 1950s may be related to the explosion in the number of SF digests in 1953.