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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: 9W LED inrush current Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:32:30 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <vdkon4$3e6qc$3@dont-email.me> References: <mN5LO.101241$CStb.23546@fx12.ams1> <vdj532$1m9e0$1@solani.org> <vdjcpr$37dnn$1@dont-email.me> <vdk605$3boh0$1@dont-email.me> <vdkal7$3c1i5$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 02:32:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="404d5bc3ad2e326536107f1fd50cb4f6"; logging-data="3611468"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/q1CFcgYZy7O9P9UWI8DRr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:xTM+1rOvtOj/FLDBUeHRdZJpsLI= In-Reply-To: <vdkal7$3c1i5$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2921 On 10/2/2024 1:32 PM, Don Y wrote: > On 10/2/2024 12:13 PM, Martin Brown wrote: >> On 02/10/2024 13:03, Pimpom wrote: >>> On 02-10-2024 03:21 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>> On a sunny day (Wed, 2 Oct 2024 12:01:47 +0530) it happened Pimpom >>>> <Pimpom@invalid.invalid> wrote in <mN5LO.101241$CStb.23546@fx12.ams1>: >>>> >>>>> Does anyone have a figure for the switch-on inrush current of a typical >>>>> 9W LED bulb? Preferably for 230/240V. >>>> >>>> Not sure wat the 'typical' circuit is, this is wha tI found in my LED bulbs >>>> from Cina: >>>> https://panteltje.nl/pub/LED_light_circuit_diagram_IMG_6925.JPG >>>> peak current is limited by the 1uF series cap at 50 Hz here. >>>> There are so many different LEDs around,... >>>> >>> Ah, I should have formed my question more carefully. I know about those >>> early bulbs. They were the precursors to modern ones that use switching >>> supplies. These later models are the ones I mean. >> >> It is still likely to be fairly small since the cheap parts they use are not >> capable of more. Only way to be sure for a specific brand is to measure it. >> I'd expect no more than 2-3x its nominal operating current. The reservoir >> capacitor is seldom bigger than needed to avoid visible flicker and sometimes >> not even that on the cheap and nasties. > > For lighting *installations* (i.e., not individual lamps), I think they > use 100x the steady state current as an upper figure. This is intended > to cover model and manufacturer variations. > > With multiple lamps on a branch circuit (or whatever is driving them), > this can add up pretty quickly. > >> Why do you need to know? <https://adlt.com.au/resources/led-inrush-currents/>