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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 00:34:54 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 12 Message-ID: <vdkore$3ed1r$4@dont-email.me> References: <memo.20240913205156.19028s@jgd.cix.co.uk> <vcda96$3p3a7$2@dont-email.me> <21028ed32d20f0eea9a754fafdb64e45@www.novabbs.org> <RECGO.45463$xO0f.22925@fx48.iad> <20240918190027.00003e4e@yahoo.com> <vcfp2q$8glq$5@dont-email.me> <jwv34lumjz7.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org> <vckpkg$18k7r$2@dont-email.me> <vckqus$18j12$2@dont-email.me> <920c561c4e39e91d3730b6aab103459b@www.novabbs.org> <vcl6i6$1ad9e$1@dont-email.me> <d3b9fc944f708546e4fbe5909c748ba3@www.novabbs.org> <%dAHO.54667$S9Vb.39628@fx45.iad> <vcna56$1nlod$2@dont-email.me> <a7708487530552a53732070fe08d9458@www.novabbs.org> <vcprkv$2asrd$1@dont-email.me> <e2c993172c11a221c4dcb9973f9cdb86@www.novabbs.org> <vcqe6f$2d8oa$1@dont-email.me> <4f84910a01d7db353eedadd7c471d7d3@www.novabbs.org> <20240923105336.0000119b@yahoo.com> <6577e60bd63883d1a7bd51c717531f38@www.novabbs.org> <vctjvc$33kcl$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 02:34:55 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="319a655577b0d958d85bd19ad5bdfbec"; logging-data="3617851"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19akuoSYsQlpHpmHYEvakD6" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/SgMoMoDwHLs3pKT05jSAdG7XUw= Bytes: 2393 On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 07:50:36 +0200, Terje Mathisen wrote: > Somebody wiser than me had written something like "You cannot > write/test/debug multithreaded programs without the ability for multiple > threads to actually run at the same time." Some threading bugs will more likely show up in multiple-CPU situations, others will more likely show up in single-CPU situations. You need to test every which way you can. The 1990s were a “let’s use threads for everything” time. Thankfully, we have become a bit more restrained since then ...