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From: Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
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On 10/3/2024 3:23 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> On 10/3/2024 4:02 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 9/25/2024 8:03 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>> On 9/25/2024 1:16 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
>>>> In article <c0056f49-7df6-41f8-ee4c-8125d5ff0952@example.net>,
>>>> D  <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>> Give me an electric car that goes as far (or further) than my gasoline
>>>>> car, with a charging time that is equal, at a cost that is equal, 
>>>>> and I
>>>>> will definitely buy it.
>>>>
>>>> I think hybrid is, given current technology, a superior
>>>> solution.  My Prius got right around 50 MPG. With a 10.5 gallon
>>>> tank, that's 450 miles before the "low fuel" light lights, and
>>>> comfortably 50 miles range beyond that.  (I got the "Low Fuel"
>>>> light a few miles from home in San Jose, drove back to work in
>>>> South San Francisco the next day, and drove to Costco next to
>>>> the San Francisco Airport at lunch to refuel.  Slightly over
>>>> 10 gallons to fill, so I still had a comfortable margin.)
>>>>
>>>> I drove it for 13 years, no trouble with the battery, sold it
>>>> to a friend's son who was going off to college, and it's still
>>>> going strong.  I tend to drive cars until they drive no more.
>>>>
>>>> I'm contemplating a plug-in hybrid next time I have to buy a
>>>> car.  Not nearly the electric range of a full electric, but
>>>> plenty for a retired person's trips to the store and whatnot.
>>>> And a normal gas car's range on gas for long trips.
>>>>
>>> The big hurdle for me to buy an electric car when my current vehicle 
>>> dies is that I live in an apartment building and the owner will not 
>>> install chargers for electric cars.
>>
>> One of my cousins has a new Tesla Y (he traded his model 3 with 100K 
>> miles in for it).  He has a Tesla Level 2 charger (50 amps, 230 volt) 
>> in his house garage.  His girlfriend just moved into his house also.  
>> She likes his Tesla Y so much that she bought one also.  His Telsa EV 
>> charger basically gives 35 miles of battery charge per hour of charging.
>>
>> Now they are are jockeying to see who gets the Telsa Charger stall in 
>> the garage.  No fights yet according to my cousin.  The cost to 
>> install a second charger is $1,500 so he is not going to do that at 
>> this time.
> 
> I'm surprised at the prices I see quoted for a Tesla charger. Mine cost
> $500, plus about 350 for the installation, in 2019. That's before a 30%
> Federal tax rebate.
> 
> Mine has a 20' cable - it has to reach over a garden bed. Perhaps
> your cousin could get a similarly long cable that can reach both cars.
> 
> pt

A second charger would need another 230 volt, 50 amp outlet installed in 
his garage with wiring behind sheetrock, and a new 50 amp, 230 circuit 
breaker installed in the breaker box.  I am not sure if he has 150 amp 
or 200 amp service to his house.  If he has to replace the circuit 
breaker box and the underground service to the house, the costs really 
go up.

Both of their Model Y's have the 310 mile battery installed.  My 
cousin's Y has the dual motors (400+ hp).  I drove it the other night, 
incredible acceleration.

Lynn