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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!news.furie.org.uk!piper.furie.org.uk!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: kids these days Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 20:20:21 -0400 Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Lines: 51 Message-ID: <vdncc6$d10$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <vd5r5k$q48h$1@solani.org> <d56ifj1angpnq16qhhb0vplmlr3tt7opnf@4ax.com> <vdbkap$tc4m$1@solani.org> <kb3jfjpejs47hqjd00fis20eog8de19ae8@4ax.com> <vddc4m$u7hu$1@solani.org> <l6ukfjl7m6q3eiki81t4ln3lr50057obl4@4ax.com> <7bglfjtll1os4g6pfqhf1i7jl0acmrvlqv@4ax.com> <vdehe9$29t3d$1@dont-email.me> <t3qlfjpbmdvfhbqccqp5k22kbf4tcr2r50@4ax.com> <vdjpr1$39i5r$1@dont-email.me> <nm1sfjhm3t7sjev3hm8h60lukpdo0vnjvu@4ax.com> <r35ufjpe7k68e4u30lvqsi4p87lmp9o1gd@4ax.com> <rb5ufj1pc4uk139u9n0rljvrliqacpllq3@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 00:20:22 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="13344"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:WXURwv9WFKoI4KfHDWgwkujBQhU= sha256:678y69Ogq2vSbM8ms5fVBK3vzLDfoMUvFFLhP91jFm8= sha1:qswSETxY+EGLloqz9tQkMywk2Xc= sha256:1VCHXmWDAya9FBpjnVbSxSP4bFQSLpqI7SVLR4/D+YY= X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Bytes: 3648 "john larkin" <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote in message news:rb5ufj1pc4uk139u9n0rljvrliqacpllq3@4ax.com... > On Thu, 03 Oct 2024 23:03:24 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> > wrote: > >>On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 19:53:49 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:45:37 +0100, Clive Arthur >>><clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>>On 30/09/2024 19:11, john larkin wrote: >>>><snip> >>>>> >>>>> If they get the DC part about right, I ask them for any other >>>>> comments. All sorts of things could be mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> With the base looking at 5K, it's unlikley to oscillate. It would be a >>>>> miracle if any kid even mentioned emitter follower oscillation. Or >>>>> noise, or tempcos, or anything else. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Along with a colleague, I interviewed someone for a repair technician's >>>>job a few years back. Among the questions was a simple common emitter >>>>single transistor stage which we asked him to explain. >>>> >>>>He blew us away. He knew *far* more detail than either of us. Turned >>>>out he was a shit-hot analog designer looking for a less stressful job >>>>as he wound down to retirement. He turned out to be brilliant at his >>>>new job, and mentored a lot of younger people. He left when the company >>>>was bought by a large US corporation with the concomitant mind-numbing >>>>treacle-wading bullshit. [Me too!] >>> >>>I see the trend, good circuit designers retiring and not being >>>replaced. >> >>Maybe not yet, but pretty soon AI will do it better than humans. > > Don't see how a simple quesion has enough information to generate a > complex design. > > https://www.flux.ai/ > > Why do we have garbage like Windows and Outlook if AI is available? Because garbage made money and closed source meant no-one else could laugh at the code. If Windows is ever rewritten by AI then it's likely to be in a way which does whatever is necessary to make more money. >