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On 2024-10-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 20:47:30 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> On 2024-10-03 2:10 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:07:10 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Being able to repair is great. I am bothered by the fact that
>>>> companies think we're too stupid to fix our own units and solder the
>>>> stuff to protect the technology from ourselves.
>>> 
>>> Sockets cost money.
>> 
>> Is that really their excuse?
>
> https://superuser.com/questions/1172628/manufacturing-cost-of-socketed-
> versus-soldered-chips
>
> There's a little discussion there. It's more than the cost of the socket. 
> With modern SMT processes a pick and place machine puts the components on 
> the board. Usually they are held in place with solder paste although 
> sometimes adhesive is used. Run the board through a reflow machine and 
> you're done.
>
> Think about soldered on laptop memory versus DIMMs. First, the DIMM is an 
> entirely separate manufacturing step. Then you need to solder the slot and 
> retained hardware onto the motherboard, which is more complcated than 
> dropping on SMTs. Finally you have to insert the DIMMs. 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo677TyaDns
>
> They don't show it but presumably in a real operation the robot is picking 
> the DIMMs out a a cassette or some other fixture. More steps, more money.

Easily recouped at the price they're charging for high end computers. I 
think it has more to do with making more money. Greed. If you buy a laptop 
with 16 GBs and want to upgrade it to 32 GBs, it will cost less (maybe much 
less) than $100 with sockets. If you want 32 GBs instead of 16 GBs on a high 
end laptop with soldered memory, they're probably going to charge you 
another $200 or $300. Same goes for getting a larger SSD. And the cost 
difference of soldering 32 GBs on a motherboard instead of 16 GBs, is tiny 
when considering that these chips are bought wholesale by the thousands.

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