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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Even Google AI Overview understands me now --- different execution traces have different behavior !!! Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2024 08:34:40 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 80 Message-ID: <vdrf9g$p6ih$1@dont-email.me> References: <vdgpbs$2nmcm$1@dont-email.me> <vdgqhn$2nmcm$2@dont-email.me> <7c6cede5237e3eafee262c74dd1a1c90c6b2ffbb@i2pn2.org> <vdhblt$2qm1j$2@dont-email.me> <cafee8d7a14edd7b1d76bb706c36eef06ae82896@i2pn2.org> <vdi0f8$2u1aq$1@dont-email.me> <53a60609211a04a123adafa525bac39b5cbc6959@i2pn2.org> <vdjlum$38t86$4@dont-email.me> <bf681f4404a7df8e3ffc2059dcd7c5c302aeeff1@i2pn2.org> <vdkud3$3ipp4$1@dont-email.me> <8b646269ba7736c125f0b05a1d764d73540f16e0@i2pn2.org> <vdn6sj$3thq0$1@dont-email.me> <1263d37668d0fd03df0ab5f9617387ca66ba4f0e@i2pn2.org> <vdnl13$3089$1@dont-email.me> <5f8d06fc4934a789b337fe9924553e34f9a45586@i2pn2.org> <vdp7q7$8eot$3@dont-email.me> <ab89296446c0b7827f304f138347765967baf478@i2pn2.org> <vdq66f$jf7k$1@dont-email.me> <316810021a1addeb9ee56d7ee33f3d2f6cf6624d@i2pn2.org> <vdrb0g$oita$2@dont-email.me> <37e4a5967ff2e6b55cfdab86589287346e7f3068@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2024 15:34:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fddd3188853e47b8727e9d0ff63d5f8f"; logging-data="825937"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+D3KNBn/pFg0ilWFs2qBMh" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8DHdYnTIhu50tBSuK7oSyjvjmwA= In-Reply-To: <37e4a5967ff2e6b55cfdab86589287346e7f3068@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 5268 On 10/5/2024 8:27 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/5/24 8:21 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 10/5/2024 5:58 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 10/4/24 9:53 PM, olcott wrote: >> >> That you are unable to understand that it is easily conclusively >> proven (below) that the emulated HHH does emulate its DDD correctly >> is why your double-talk gibberish rebuttal fails. >> > > Nope, the trace actually proves the opposite. > The following execution trace conclusively proves that HHH emulated by itself does emulate the first four lines of DDD correctly. _DDD() [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 [00002182] 5d pop ebp [00002183] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] _main() [00002192] 55 push ebp [00002193] 8bec mov ebp,esp [00002195] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000219a] e833f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) [0000219f] 83c404 add esp,+04 [000021a2] 50 push eax [000021a3] 6843070000 push 00000743 [000021a8] e8b5e5ffff call 00000762 [000021ad] 83c408 add esp,+08 [000021b0] 33c0 xor eax,eax [000021b2] 5d pop ebp [000021b3] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0034) [000021b3] machine stack stack machine assembly address address data code language ======== ======== ======== ========= ============= [00002192][00103820][00000000] 55 push ebp ; Begin main() [00002193][00103820][00000000] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002195][0010381c][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000219a][00103818][0000219f] e833f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) New slave_stack at:1038c4 Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation Execution Trace Stored at:1138cc [00002172][001138bc][001138c0] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173][001138bc][001138c0] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175][001138b8][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a][001138b4][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) // emulated HHH emulating DDD New slave_stack at:14e2ec [00002172][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175][0015e2e0][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a][0015e2dc][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped [0000219f][00103820][00000000] 83c404 add esp,+04 [000021a2][0010381c][00000000] 50 push eax [000021a3][00103818][00000743] 6843070000 push 00000743 [000021a8][00103818][00000743] e8b5e5ffff call 00000762 Input_Halts = 0 [000021ad][00103820][00000000] 83c408 add esp,+08 [000021b0][00103820][00000000] 33c0 xor eax,eax [000021b2][00103824][00000018] 5d pop ebp [000021b3][00103828][00000000] c3 ret Number of Instructions Executed(10069) == 150 Pages -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer