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On 10/4/2024 7:22 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> Running Win11 doesn't mean you have to use CoPilot, or Recall, or ANY
>>>>> included Microsoft application at all
>>>
>>> Who knows what's going to happen with Windows "CoPilot ready" PC's
>>> with NPI's?  How could anyone know, for sure, what it's doing?  How
>>> will anyone know that "features" turned-off will not be turned back
>>> on?
>>>
>>> Of course, the vast majority will just say "duh" and not know or care,
>>> and their loss of privacy will be profound.
>>>
>>> Assholes like DumFSck may defend M$ on these issues, but no decent
>>> person would.
>>
>> You're the kind of moron who would voluntarily turn Recall on then whine
>> "Windows is spying on me!".
> 
> 
> Chris V. would never voluntarily "turn on" M$'s ultimate spyware, 

Recall isn't spyware unless it reports data back to MS or others without 
telling the user.  Got any evidence it does?



> but how do *you* know turning it off stops them using it in that way?

In general, OS users of whatever stripe (Windows Linux or Mac) never 
actually know what their OS is doing.

What, you think malware can't be installed on Linux that hides its 
activities or disguises them with innocuous file and process names that 
few people would ever catch?

Lookup hidepid.

do
$ps -e

Do you recognize every process?

I just did it on my WSL Ubuntu install.
It lists:
PID CMD
250 subiquity-serve
253 unattended-upgr

Never heard of them.

Did you review all the open source code, and compile it all yourself?

Fact is, very few Linux users even know if the distro they install was 
actually built with the exact source files at the distro maker.

MS/Windows hides *everything* inside compiled, proprietary code.  And 
who tf knows what's happening in all those 'Service Host' processes.

It's all based on trust.

And I'm not worried.  I definitely trust MS and Linux distros not to 
collect or sell personally-identifying data.