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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: is Vax addressing sane today Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:55:31 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 16 Message-ID: <vdsn63$ukl1$5@dont-email.me> References: <vdg3d1$2kdqr$1@dont-email.me> <memo.20241001101211.19028o@jgd.cix.co.uk> <20241001123426.000066c1@yahoo.com> <2024Oct1.182625@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vdknel$3e4pf$9@dont-email.me> <2024Oct3.085754@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vdne1a$3uaeh$4@dont-email.me> <m1rufjhpi09m9adedt87nrcdfmij1i8pvb@4ax.com> <vdo2ct$4les$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2024 02:55:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2984c2f13757de48e2f7497d28a8ed5d"; logging-data="1004193"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+o1P0X79jTZM39SD9uz/h7" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4fH7JT6H4TXvOWuJk2WQEfAtP0Y= Bytes: 1948 On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 23:36:12 -0700, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 00:48:43 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro >> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >>> That’s all past history, anyway. RISC very much rules today, and it is >>> x86 that is struggling to keep up. >> >> You are, of course, aware that the complex "x86" instruction set is an >> illusion and that the hardware essentially has been a load-store RISC >> with a complex decoder on the front end since the Pentium Pro landed in >> 1995. Of course, and that complexity (and consequent expense) is part of the struggle. Looking at Intel’s current financial woes, it is clearly not being as successful at that as it has been in the past.