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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Even Google AI Overview understands me now --- different execution traces have different behavior !!! Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2024 22:54:14 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: <vdt1l6$13moo$1@dont-email.me> References: <vdgpbs$2nmcm$1@dont-email.me> <vdjlum$38t86$4@dont-email.me> <bf681f4404a7df8e3ffc2059dcd7c5c302aeeff1@i2pn2.org> <vdkud3$3ipp4$1@dont-email.me> <8b646269ba7736c125f0b05a1d764d73540f16e0@i2pn2.org> <vdn6sj$3thq0$1@dont-email.me> <1263d37668d0fd03df0ab5f9617387ca66ba4f0e@i2pn2.org> <vdnl13$3089$1@dont-email.me> <5f8d06fc4934a789b337fe9924553e34f9a45586@i2pn2.org> <vdp7q7$8eot$3@dont-email.me> <ab89296446c0b7827f304f138347765967baf478@i2pn2.org> <vdq66f$jf7k$1@dont-email.me> <316810021a1addeb9ee56d7ee33f3d2f6cf6624d@i2pn2.org> <vdrb0g$oita$2@dont-email.me> <37e4a5967ff2e6b55cfdab86589287346e7f3068@i2pn2.org> <vdrf9g$p6ih$1@dont-email.me> <58a96f19f9bba519e879f8f0847866bd0340f8b5@i2pn2.org> <vdrfpa$p6ih$2@dont-email.me> <a09854f996cf58ab0e11bcf8608d2d2bc980b65d@i2pn2.org> <vdsuc4$13cch$1@dont-email.me> <283b9f2c331c81b03e5cff7848836aa741e1702e@i2pn2.org> <vdt0qb$13k0s$1@dont-email.me> <a1061ccf1aadfb368f0a257e914a6ebc883cad31@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2024 05:54:15 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8241962fd725da77d4713a73e4f1f7dc"; logging-data="1170200"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18mNXbVfqIwuCGeWjoHNsR7" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:gOKEGffSp2YGwRGM9sEDbasKJE0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <a1061ccf1aadfb368f0a257e914a6ebc883cad31@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 4398 On 10/5/2024 10:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/5/24 11:39 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 10/5/2024 10:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 10/5/24 10:58 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 10/5/2024 9:46 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 10/5/24 9:43 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 10/5/2024 8:38 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/5/24 9:34 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 8:27 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 10/5/24 8:21 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 5:58 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/4/24 9:53 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That you are unable to understand that it is easily conclusively >>>>>>>>>> proven (below) that the emulated HHH does emulate its DDD >>>>>>>>>> correctly >>>>>>>>>> is why your double-talk gibberish rebuttal fails. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope, the trace actually proves the opposite. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The following execution trace conclusively proves that >>>>>>>> HHH emulated by itself does emulate the first four lines >>>>>>>> of DDD correctly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right, and then makes the error of PRESUMEING INCORREDTLY that >>>>>>> HHH(DDD) will not return, >>>>>> >>>>>> That this is over-your-head really is not my mistake. >>>>>> *DDD emulated by HHH cannot possibly return* >>>>> >>>>> No, it is beyond YOUR head that the fact that HHH does abort its >>>>> emulation means its doesn't show if the HHH that it was emulating >>>>> will return on not. >>>>> >>>> >>>> This is simply over your head. >>>> The infinite set of DDD emulated by HHH >>>> never returns no matter what its corresponding HHH does. >>> >>> No, that is just a false statement based on you changing the meaning >>> of the words. >>> >>> EVERY DDD that calls an HHH(DDD) that ever returns an answer will halt. >>> >> >> No DDD emulated by any corresponding HHH ever returns >> and the HHH that emulates it does return an answer >> corresponding to this behavior of this emulated DDD. >> > > That is a lie based on your misunderstanding of the meaning of the words. > *No DDD emulated by any corresponding HHH ever returns* Until you understand this point you remain clueless. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer