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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_I_dare_to_relativists_to_explain_local_time=3A_t-vx?= =?UTF-8?Q?/c=C2=B2?= Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2024 19:54:57 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 227 Message-ID: <vduip5$1a1nf$1@dont-email.me> References: <8dc9a6eb5ee097da5239175cb7833cd6@www.novabbs.com> <ebCdnU-bKuOJYmD7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <6a64a60eb15efe9a5449ade234d05804@www.novabbs.com> <fc3e047c7de75fd713b8844393a5234e@www.novabbs.com> <vds6da$sl6n$1@dont-email.me> <71951787b5f1c60661ff5e5c10adbfe2@www.novabbs.com> <vds9gu$sl6n$3@dont-email.me> <ceec5695e7b739e93447160276a5e2b6@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2024 19:52:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="42cf3be1bb739c0e53de8aefd5af4fc7"; logging-data="1378031"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1++ST4jJ7n6zbO+RvQtRfRc" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:BLvZeEXj+WcuaN9ZQgeAmM7Lv0Y= In-Reply-To: <ceec5695e7b739e93447160276a5e2b6@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 10047 Den 05.10.2024 23:51, skrev rhertz: > > DON'T FORGET THE AWFUL TRUTH: YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT WHAT LOCAL > TIME IS. NOT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CLUE! > > I PROVIDED MANY LINKS WITH PRETENTIOUS EXPLANATIONS, MORE METAPHYSICAL > THAN REAL, BUT YOU DIDN'T CARE ABOUT IT. > > WHAT ONLY MATTERS IS THE "FANTASTIC PAUL'S WORLD", WHERE YOU LIVE > ENJOYING YOUR LIST OF PAPERS AND FEELING FORTUNATE OF BEING A > "CONVERTED" RELATIVIST, MR. EE. > > YOU RUINED YOUR SMALL BRAIN WITH DECADES OF EXPOSURE TO RELATIVITY. NOW, > IT'S GOING WORSE FOR YOUR BRAIN, DUE TO THE NATURAL DECAY IN THE AMOUNT > OF NEURONS DUE TO YOUR AGE. > > EVEN YOUR PARROTING MECHANISM IS SUFFERING THE TOLL THAT AGING CAUSES. > > > BUT REMEMBER: YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKING CLUE ABOUT WHAT LOCAL TIME IS. > > CASE CLOSED, AS YOUR MIND. Well shouted, Richard. Nobody can illustrate the stupidity of Richard Hertz better than you, Richard. Since you ask so nicely, I will remind you of other cases when you have made a fool of yourself without my help: | Den 02.10.2024 19:33, skrev rhertz: |> |> "Time is what my clock shows", infamously asserted at |> the beginning of his plagiarized 1905 paper. |> Assertion still sustained nowadays by relativists. |> So, even moving at c/2, the clock of the moving observer would |> dictate that a day last 86,400 seconds. |> But relativity sustain the narrative that, even when your clock marks |> 86,400 seconds/day, a remote clock (located on Earth's surface) would |> mark 99,766 seconds/day. |> All of this because OF A FORMULA, being impossible to verify it |> experimentally. |> | Den 28.09.2024 04:34, skrev rhertz: |> |> This link illustrates a bit: |> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_redshift |> |> Δf/f = Δλ/λ = z = GM/c² (1/R - 1/r) = Φ(R)/c² - Φ(r)/c² |> |> https://www.space.com/41290-biggest-star.html |> |> G = 6.6743E−11 m^3 kg^−1 s^−2 |> M = 5E+09 x 1.989E+30 Kg = 9.945E+39 Kg |> R = 1,700 x 634,000 Km = 1,077,800,000,000 m |> |> Φ(R)/c² = 6,842,736.59 |> |> In comparison, Φ(RSun)/c² = 0.000002327 |> |Den 27.09.2024 22:13, skrev rhertz: |> |> YOU CAN'T, UNDER ANY DECENT ASSUMPTION, DARE TO ESTIMATE WHAT WAS |> THE ELAPSED TIME AT THE USNO CLOCKS IN WASHINGTON, IF YOU ARE |> 15,000 MILES FAR AWAY AND HAVE NOT ANY MEANS (NOT EVEN AS OF TODAY) |> TO ESTIMATE THE TIME VALUE OF SUCH REFERENCE CLOCK. |> | Den 27.09.2024 00:27, skrev rhertz: |> |> Mudrak's 2017 formula for GNSS Galileo: |> |> Δf/f₀ = -GMₑ/c² (1/r - 1/a) - 1/2c² [(vˢᵃᵗ)² - (aΩₑ)²] |> |> If a (satellite height) is only "h" times higher than r |> (i.e. 10 Km), then |> |> Δf/f₀ = gh/c² - [(vˢᵃᵗ)²+ (rΩₑ)²]/2c² ----- Mudrak 2017 |> |> Δτ/τ₀ = gh/c² - (2RΩv + v²)/2c² ------------ Hafele 1971 |> |> Does it rings any bell on the void of your skull, or should |> I explain? |> Who made a fraudulent approximation in GR using Schwarzschild? |> | Den 27.09.2024 02:47, skrev rhertz: |> |> Your STUPID and ILLOGICAL thinking is about having bought THIS CRAP: |> Hafele considered a good approximation the following INSANE |> assertion: |> |> - WE (H&K, plus the gang at USNO) considered A GOOD IDEA to think |> that a good approximation is: |> |> - Earth rotates at 459,24 m/sec (Equator level). We SUPPOSE that |> USNO labs are FLOATING IN THE AIR for the duration of our eastward |> trip. |> |> - So, in a stroke of a genius, we SUPPOSED that being still for |> 65.42 hours (flight time + waiting in airports) at ALTITUDE 0.0Km, |> we WOULD REACH USNO LABS while Earth rotates such amount |> (either 0° latitude or the average 34° latitude). |> |> - The only thing that we have to do is TO SIT COMFORTABLY, while |> Earth rotates, AND in 65.42 hours we will reach USNO AGAIN |> (because we departed from USNO, which MAGICALLY remained STILL |> IN SPACE, without ANY MOTION. We are, by the hand of Einstein, |> who slipped eastward, to finally reach USNO again. |> |> - The only uncomfortable aspect of such adventure is that OUR ASSES |> got wet, while moving over water at height ZERO, plus a lot of |> bruises in our asses while moving over earth, at h=0. |> |> - But all the pain suffered worth the sacrifice, as we COULD |> THEORETICALLY compute the elapsed time τ₀ =65.42h =235.512E+12 ns. |> |> - That such value, which we pulled out of our asses, contain errors |> in the order of BILLIONS OF PARTS is irrelevant, because we proved |> that Einstein was right. |> | Den 15.09.2024 03:26, skrev rhertz: |> |> As if the above IS NOT ENOUGH, exhaustive experiments done by France |> since 2017 SHOWS (with error <10E-15) that THE EQUIVALENCE PRINCIPLE |> BREAKS AT QUANTUM LEVEL. |> |> As they wrote here: |> |> https://www.oca.eu/en/news-lagrange/1363-first-results-from-microscope-satellite-confirm-albert-einstein-s-theory-of-relativity-with-unprecedented-precision |> |> QUOTE: |> «The satellite’s performance is far exceeding expectations. Data |> from more than 1,900 additional orbits are already available and |> more are to come, which should enable us to further improve the |> mission’s performance and approach its target of acquiring |> measurements with a precision of 10-15. This first result is going |> to shake the world of physics and will certainly lead to a revision |> of alternative theories to general relativity,» said the mission’s |> principal investigator Pierre Touboul. |> |> Enjoy slowly, relativists. Please don't choke on your stupidity, |> as you are allowed to fail for being just humans. |> | Den 13.09.2024 19:32, skrev rhertz: |> |> And about your list of historical proofs of relativity, |> I can make a deep forensic analysis of them, proving beyond |> any reasonable doubt, that relativists are members of a MAFFIA, |> and profit from it. This is because the different results are |> COOKED with the help of statistical manipulations, fraud, |> cooking and peer complicity. |> | Den 10.09.2024 03:19, skrev rhertz: |> |> Paul Andersen posted, without a bit of shame, the following: |>> |>> GR predicts that the gravitational deflection of em-radiation |>> by the Sun, observed from the Earth, is: ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========