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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Linux is for wankers.
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 06:12:31 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2024-10-08, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-10-08 7:35 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-10-07, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-07 7:38 p.m., Tranny Tori wrote:
>>>> I get it for building a server farm or mainframe LPARS
>>>> running Linux and these are good areas for Linux but why
>>>> the fuck would anyone punish themselves by using Linux as
>>>> a desktop system?
>>>> It's pure suicide.
>>>
>>> No telemetry, lighter code, a feeling of complete control. However, most
>>> Linux distributions use Firefox and Thunderbird by default and these are
>>> known to collect data by default, so the telemetry argument is out the
>>> window unless you get rid of those two.
>> 
>> Yeah, because Mac OS and Windows are so much better about "not" collecting
>> personal information.
>
> I never said that they were. What I'm saying is that if you're using 
> Linux because you're concerned about telemetry, then you're being 
> hypocritical.

Not really. The telemetry on Windows and MacOS is a LOT more pervasive and 
almost impossible to completely remove. And Windows (the control freaks who 
program it) decide what you should do with your computer if you're using 
their crap. My daughter and her husband have just run into Windows' "fun and 
games" when their Microsoft Windows computer "helpfully" automatically 
updated their computer from Windows 10 to Windows 11. Now, apparently, they 
have several issues — one, apparently, with the network card driver.

>> As for "getting rid of Firefox and Thunderbird," you can do that. Or you
>> could just go to the Security settings and turn telemetry off.
>> 
>> Problem solved either way.
>
> That's not a problem, but I imagine that most people aren't even aware 
> of the telemetry and won't have known to do that.

That could be true but, "supposedly," telemetry is just there for quality 
control. But I tend to be skeptical also. I go through Firefox and 
Thunderbird and get rid of things like automatically saving credit card 
numbers, etc. I turn off allowing notifications and requests to use my 
camera or audio, for whatever may "need" audio or the camera... like 
"Virtual Reality." Virtual reality? Really? What is the hell is that all 
about? Personally I look at it this way. I'll decide what and when I want 
turned on, on a case by case basis when I need it. I've NEVER like 
applications that try to think for me and make decisions for me. (It's one 
of the main reasons why I hated Microsoft Office.)

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien