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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: A Completely Out-of-the-blue Gripe Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 08:02:07 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: <ve65te$2meas$1@dont-email.me> References: <32ftfj5q1cf67t7761e5qrdgsnvu4mt6t6@4ax.com> <bca67e391995ab058f5fa445769599440159dc2b@i2pn2.org> <ugnbgjpkav46q67c5p3c6crb5hj9k4iv12@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 17:02:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e99f24876257bed709affb1acfe28477"; logging-data="2832732"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18zstuY4YNoIQqowufViwDd" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:FhdF5P9pAnHsn/JWNFe6MMpwLzE= In-Reply-To: <ugnbgjpkav46q67c5p3c6crb5hj9k4iv12@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3320 On 10/8/2024 6:47 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote: > On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 19:26:52 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 10/3/2024 9:00 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote: >>> >>> Prepare for the stupidest complaint I've yet made! > > >> I'm actually with you although in my case it's Steam, because I look a >> lot at older games, and it's the date it appeared on Steam, or was >> re-released on Steam, as such I find their release dates about useless. > > Steam is all over the place with its reported release dates. > _Sometimes_ it will be the original release date. _Sometimes_ it will > be when the game was reissued. And sometimes it will be -as you > mentioned- when it appears on the Steam platform. It's a mess. > > I'm a little more forgiving, though, since it's apparent that Valve > just doesn't care as opposed to GOG's trying to manipulate the dates > for their benefit. Arguably, many of these re-releases are "new' > versons of the game (since most of them have been updated in one way > or another to better run on modern hardware), so a modern release date > isn't completely outrageous. > > But I wouldn't mind some consistency. > > PC release dates are weirdly hard to nail down anyway, especially with > older games. Except for a handful of really high-profile games (Doom, > Duke Nukem 3D, etc.) you usually can't narrow it down to better than > the release _month_, and for some games you're lucky if you know the > year. But back in the 80s and 90s, there often wasn't a hard-and-fast > release date. Games were shipped and sold when they were available. In > an era when many games were hand-packed by the developers themselves, > and there was no just-in-time shipping, the release date depended a > lot on when the store got the game (and few stores waited for a > specific date; the games got put on shelves immediately). > > Which is really annoying to those of us who'd like an exact date. But > the past was a weird place. ;-) > That keeps getting weirder as time passes. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.