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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: 80286 protected mode Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 08:31:52 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <ve7sco$31tgt$1@dont-email.me> References: <2024Oct6.150415@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <memo.20241006163428.19028W@jgd.cix.co.uk> <2024Oct7.093314@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <7c8e5c75ce0f1e7c95ec3ae4bdbc9249@www.novabbs.org> <2024Oct8.092821@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <ve5ek3$2jamt$1@dont-email.me> <ve6gv4$2o2cj$1@dont-email.me> <ve6olo$2pag3$2@dont-email.me> <73e776d6becb377b484c5dcc72b526dc@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 08:31:52 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a48c12dce33700a9986218db92a85cb4"; logging-data="3208733"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Cgv0hMQmZD9vok259EoTFMUbI6HDU/hg=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:QBgUuHGEkvyEL8kzpQ/AYmXDi/Q= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <73e776d6becb377b484c5dcc72b526dc@www.novabbs.org> Bytes: 2637 On 09/10/2024 23:37, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 20:22:16 +0000, David Brown wrote: > >> On 09/10/2024 20:10, Thomas Koenig wrote: >>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> schrieb: >>> >>>> When would you ever /need/ to compare pointers to different objects? >>>> For almost all C programmers, the answer is "never". >>> >>> Sometimes, it is handy to encode certain conditions in pointers, >>> rather than having only a valid pointer or NULL. A compiler, >>> for example, might want to store the fact that an error occurred >>> while parsing a subexpression as a special pointer constant. >>> >>> Compilers often have the unfair advantage, though, that they can >>> rely on what application programmers cannot, their implementation >>> details. (Some do not, such as f2c). >> >> Standard library authors have the same superpowers, so that they can >> implement an efficient memmove() even though a pure standard C >> programmer cannot (other than by simply calling the standard library >> memmove() function!). > > This is more a symptom of bad ISA design/evolution than of libc > writers needing superpowers. No, it is not. It has absolutely /nothing/ to do with the ISA.