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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 10:16:18 +0100 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 49 Message-ID: <ve8612$33lq0$3@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <36KdnVlGJu9VLW77nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <971448126.749088380.092448.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vd5195$edas$1@dont-email.me> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <vd6vto$r0so$1@dont-email.me> <iJEJO.198176$kxD8.81657@fx11.iad> <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vd8doi$15q07$1@dont-email.me> <vd8eg7$15v1j$2@dont-email.me> <cxicnVzg_cn_eGX7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdapbn$1kp35$5@dont-email.me> <lltpunF4fseU2@mid.individual.net> <vde36e$268qv$21@dont-email.me> <vdf6u1$2cn51$16@dont-email.me> <slrnvftfn4.51us.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vdn5nd$3ssv4$16@dont-email.me> <slrnvfu75g.t6vq.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <kMedne0I3JBuxmL7nZ2dnZfqnPgLyJ2d@earthlink.com> <slrnvgdhcc.2nfc6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <ve6pfp$2p1hd$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 11:16:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="21d4a87c661cca9ed7ec98232c222a4e"; logging-data="3266368"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/jkciU1BEGYLZ5iTxTVsopFco3y4zpvCo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ndKsGQf89zHGafebyQEtMSK5RIg= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <ve6pfp$2p1hd$8@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3873 On 09/10/2024 21:36, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > candycanearter07 wrote this post; take it under advisement: > >> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote at 03:07 this Friday (GMT): >>> On 10/3/24 6:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote: >>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 22:26 this Thursday (GMT): >>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 16:00:05 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 21:58 this Monday (GMT): >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 12:48:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I suspect PayPal and Ebay actually do still use COBOL somewhere >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where would they have got it from? They were both entrepreneurial >>>>>>> startups, offering an entirely new kind of financial/commercial service >>>>>>> essentially from scratch. >>>>>> >>>>>> /Sometimes/ having an outdated system is beneficial (CloudFlare >>>>>> disaster) >>>>> >>>>> Did COBOL have something to do with that? >>>> >>>> Oh, I meant more the couple of companies that managed to keep running >>>> stuff, like Southwest. >>> >>> Well ... sometimes an 'obsolete' language as the >>> base of your operations - kinda like "Latin" - it >>> doesn't really CHANGE anymore, No COBOL-2025 where >>> they've changed half the stuff ....... >>> >>> As such "obsolete" CAN equal "stability". >> >> Like debian? > > Debian has 3 levels: stable, testing, and unstable (Sid). > > Pick your poison. I used Sid for many years. Currently I use Testing, > which means sometimes my updates have to be delayed a few hours (as told by > the aptitude interfaces). > I ditched debian because stable was years behind the curve, Mint appearto be based on 'testing' -- The New Left are the people they warned you about.