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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: EMC compliance question Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:52:38 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <ve9st1$3c1pj$1@dont-email.me> References: <67070ba9$1$1783$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <ko3egjh48259s212n8i8dc6jql0vlc9vb8@4ax.com> <67072de6$1$3068692$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <7ceegjl7tbqvpgi98hngug9dbr01tdvfqp@4ax.com> <ve8h31$35b1u$1@dont-email.me> <4krfgj9ofiu0vrgjlsqdbos01h148ff7ik@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 02:52:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="731b3f0b977210ff333c530450369a9a"; logging-data="3540787"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+TeTQxH1CO3QnzWpixgu3JZdxDOf8j7bM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:kyM0cFAxeXumIwKbg0+cXUFsVyc= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <4krfgj9ofiu0vrgjlsqdbos01h148ff7ik@4ax.com> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241010-2, 10/10/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2796 On 11/10/2024 2:58 am, john larkin wrote: > On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 13:25:04 +0100, Clive Arthur > <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 10/10/2024 03:21, john larkin wrote: >> >> <snip CE chat> >>> >>> Do you really care? >>> >>> My Brit friends say that CE means Can't Enforce. >> >> Or Chinese Export. >> >> They may say that, but I bet they comply - it means if your competitor >> finds out that you don't comply you have problems. I've never worked >> anywhere where it's not taken seriously. > > In europe, "taking seriously" often means buying a reel of CE stickers > and slapping them on everything. > > Did you EMI lab test everything that you sold? > > We mostly sell things that go onto bigger systems, and our customer > worries about certifications. So we only need to not make them fail. > Our box could be buried deep inside their system. > > We only once were blamed for an important EMI failure, and that turned > out to be our customers fault. > > There must be ballpark a million shops in the USA that assemble PCs > from parts, mostly Chinese parts, the other CE kind, and I doubt if > 1% of those assemblers do any EMI testing. Just a little mindless optimism there. I did get on product started on CE testing, and the mains connector was the weak point. I think the final solution was to buy a better one. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney