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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: OT: For those who still don't get that the Honda doesn't offer an
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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 23:17:58 -0700
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On 2024-10-10 17:46, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-10-10 13:30, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 10/10/2024 12:44 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-10 03:25, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> On 10/9/2024 11:13 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-10-09 19:28, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/4/2024 7:20 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-02 11:29, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...ON THE TRACK:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the SCCA National Runoffs this year at Road America in 
>>>>>>>> Wisconsin:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fastest qualifier so far IS an FF Honda at 2:22.552.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But second fastest is a FF Ford just .181 behind at 2:22.733.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/ 
>>>>>>>> downloads/000/073/365/ 
>>>>>>>> FF%20Runoffs2024%20Qual%202%20Provisional.pdf>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And that's not even remotely a new Formula F chassis! The Swift 
>>>>>>>> DB6 chassis dates from 1991...that's 43 years ago!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So why is the field mostly Hondas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because (as I've explained before) time and money spent 
>>>>>>>> maintaining a Formula F Kent in top shape can be spent on more 
>>>>>>>> profitable things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, gee, what do you know?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "uncompetitive" Kent...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...won the 2024 SCCA National Runoffs in Formula F.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who'd have thought it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://cdn.connectsites.net/user_files/scca/ 
>>>>>> downloads/000/073/541/ FF%20Runoffs2024%20Race%20Official.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The # 5 car, the Kent, finished 8th in the official results, 1st 
>>>>>> in Provisional Results
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Position changed per: Car 5 - Moved behind #81 per SOM - GCR 
>>>>>> 6.11.1.D,
>>>>>> Appendix P.5. Must have cheated to get moved down that far.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the 5 car was the only Kent in the race.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's extra hilarious is that they literally listed the rule 
>>>>> infraction involved...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but you just went with, "must have cheated".
>>>>
>>>> It was a passing infraction, I looked it up. That is cheating. You 
>>>> said he "won the 2024 SCCA National Runoffs in Formula F" the when 
>>>> confronted with the truth changed it to "could have won", Liarboy. 
>>>> So typical of you.
>>>
>>> Your implication was clearly that the only reason he could have been 
>>> leading the race was that he cheated. The SCCA ruled that he moved to 
>>> aggressively to defend his position, and having seen the video, 
>>> that's certainly true. But your claim has always been that the Ford 
>>> can't be competitive with the Honda and there's no way that can be 
>>> true if a Ford can be in the lead on the last lap of the race.
>>>
>>> And never said "could have won" anywhere, Liarboy.
>>
>> You flat out lied when you said "The "uncompetitive" Kent
>> won the 2024 SCCA National Runoffs in Formula F"
>>
>> If you had said that a single Kent was competitive in this one race I 
>> would have agreed. But no, you said the Kent WON the race. That is not 
>> true. He broke a rule by aggressively blocking another driver. Had he 
>> not done so he might have not placed first in the provisional 
>> standings. In other words, he cheated the other driver out of an 
>> opportunity to pass and was appropriately penalized. Had he followed 
>> the rules he very likely would not have even won a provisional first.
>>
>> Now, in a larger sense, is the Kent competitive? No. There have been 
>> VERY few Kents entered in the Runoffs for many years. If they were 
>> competitive on performance and cost there would be more. If the Kent 
>> was a better engine overall on performance and cost the Kent would 
>> dominate. Even you agree. After all you bought a Honda-powered car, 
>> Liarboy.
>>
>> You stated "Because (as I've explained before) time and money spent
>> maintaining a Formula F Kent in top shape can be spent on more 
>> profitable things." You admit here that the Kent is not competitive 
>> when considering the overall metrics. Why spend the money on the Kent 
>> when it can't go out and beat the Honda on a consistent basis? YOU 
>> said that. THAT is why the Kent is so scarce in the Runoffs.
>>
>> In an even larger sense you show in this instance that you are more 
>> than willing to bend facts to make yourself look good. Major traits of 
>> a narcissistic hypocrite. Of course, another trait of the narcissistic 
>> hypocrite is that you can never admit being wrong, or that the other 
>> person who disagrees with you is right. Such people are also totally 
>> blind to their disorder.
> 
> Just for absolute clarity, Liarboy:
> 
> I posted about the Runoffs win at 16:20PDT on October 4...
> 
> ...and the official results weren't posted until 17:00 (Wisconsin time 
> presumably)...
> 
> ...on October 5.
> 
> Just another example of your careful understanding of the situation, hmmm?

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