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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 12:28:35 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 25 Message-ID: <vear43$3k24l$1@dont-email.me> References: <t5AySA2aWT46Ra7AsAZqm8Hc3GM@jntp> <3816ef2676ce1aa6a8c37d69bc10aa33@www.novabbs.com> <CLH8zZ8XoLet8tC7KBErRRKWR7I@jntp> <ve5j7i$2jthj$1@dont-email.me> <XuyIJaxfFTfruSPJR8bWBtrAGq4@jntp> <ve81ld$333o4$1@dont-email.me> <YjSiiwllgxjO8USCxPs2jYwEQ3E@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:28:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="61f277f3cbdfa1ba18e42e8857f20049"; logging-data="3803285"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX180i14y7weRg1LpmUbiFmXl" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:DxQdSfFqj0uEUbLfSTq/LJrgjTw= Bytes: 2207 On 2024-10-10 12:33:14 +0000, Richard Hachel said: > Le 10/10/2024 à 10:01, Mikko a écrit : >> The fog of words can be largely avoided by the use of equations. Words >> are only needed when the equations need be connected to the real world. >> For that purpose one should use well known words as much as possible and >> definitions whenever the usual dictionary meaning is too obscure or >> vague. >> >>> Especially the fog of concepts in SR, where it is very difficult for > > It is sometimes the fog of concepts that can generate the fog of words. > I think that this is what has been happening first in relativity since 1905. > Henri Poincaré had given the right equations, of great mathematical and > physical perfection (mathematics must be applied to physical reality). > We have the right equations, we know that it works, but we do not > understand why it works. Special Relativity does not try to answer why God created the world the way He did. It only attempts to describe how the world behaves, and only about certain aspects of that behaviour. -- Mikko