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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.szaf.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Trying to refind a journal article Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 08:41:55 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <veb9v2$3m21p$1@dont-email.me> References: <veaa79$3hoqs$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="96039"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ehIPZoMHTOVdZH64YVW2rCaTtQk= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 099E9229882; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:29:02 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B92229787 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:28:59 -0400 (EDT) id 720D35E223; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 13:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BFFE5DFB1 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 13:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE4E95F860 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 13:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/DE4E95F860; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 6C08BDC01A9; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 15:41:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 15:41:55 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <veaa79$3hoqs$1@dont-email.me> X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19k1KFIKjvNQzjEFVVH1lfQ8iHEIH9tklc= Content-Language: en-US FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3863 On 10/10/2024 11:40 PM, Pro Plyd wrote: > > I use the browsers "Epic" and "Brave" which can > be set to not save history. Was just starting > to read an article, something about how "other" > "theories" of evolution get around (theories as > in, kook stuff, creationist, etc). Power blipped, > pc restarted. Dang, no history. > > It was a journal of some kind, kinda pretty sure the > journal title was "Cell-something". I think it was > a 2024 article. > > Can't find it again. Does this ring a bell with > anyone? Probably not enough to go on... > https://www.forbes.com/sites/andreamorris/2024/06/14/evolution-may-be-purposeful-and-its-freaking-scientists-out/ Something on "purposeful" evolution. His example of the adaptive immune system essentially means that "purpose" is just the random development of something that works to do something that can be selected for. The random mutations are not directed, but they just produce something that can be identified as working better to bind to an antigen. Nearly all of the millions of attempts are failures. For evolution to work every change has to work within what already exists. If a new function is created, that new function has to work within what already exists. That is not purposeful, it is just reality. Ron Okimoto