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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 10:59:44 -0400 Organization: None Lines: 50 Message-ID: <vebeh8$3mlns$4@dont-email.me> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <36KdnVlGJu9VLW77nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <971448126.749088380.092448.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vd5195$edas$1@dont-email.me> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <vd6vto$r0so$1@dont-email.me> <iJEJO.198176$kxD8.81657@fx11.iad> <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vd8doi$15q07$1@dont-email.me> <vd8eg7$15v1j$2@dont-email.me> <cxicnVzg_cn_eGX7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdapbn$1kp35$5@dont-email.me> <lltpunF4fseU2@mid.individual.net> <vde36e$268qv$21@dont-email.me> <vdf6u1$2cn51$16@dont-email.me> <slrnvftfn4.51us.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vdn5nd$3ssv4$16@dont-email.me> <slrnvfu75g.t6vq.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <kMedne0I3JBuxmL7nZ2dnZfqnPgLyJ2d@earthlink.com> <slrnvgdhcc.2nfc6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <ve6pfp$2p1hd$8@dont-email.me> <slrnvgg5qr.1gkvp.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> Reply-To: OFeem1987@teleworm.us Injection-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 16:59:52 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8af077e861db3ae800f13de1b738c581"; logging-data="3888892"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19oNv98ZrnqdszQu2zRCkUP" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:C/7Un7baYZGxwp3r9mvt8tuSbSA= X-Mutt: The most widely-used MUA X-Slrn: Why use anything else? X-Face: 63n<76,LYJQ2m#'5YL#.T95xqyPiG`ffIP70tN+j"(&@6(4l\7uL)2+/-r0)/9SjZ`qw= Njn mr93Xrerx}aQG-Ap5IHn"xe;`5:pp"$RH>Kx_ngWw%c\+6qSg!q"41n2[.N/;Pu6q8?+Poz~e A9? $6_R7cm.l!s8]yfv7x+-FYQ|/k X-User-Agent: Microsoft Outl00k, Usenet K00k Editions Bytes: 4228 candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 20:36 this Wednesday (GMT): >> candycanearter07 wrote this post; take it under advisement: >> >>> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote at 03:07 this Friday (GMT): >>>> On 10/3/24 6:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote: >>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 22:26 this Thursday (GMT): >>>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 16:00:05 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 21:58 this Monday (GMT): >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 12:48:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I suspect PayPal and Ebay actually do still use COBOL somewhere >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Where would they have got it from? They were both entrepreneurial >>>>>>>> startups, offering an entirely new kind of financial/commercial service >>>>>>>> essentially from scratch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /Sometimes/ having an outdated system is beneficial (CloudFlare >>>>>>> disaster) >>>>>> >>>>>> Did COBOL have something to do with that? >>>>> >>>>> Oh, I meant more the couple of companies that managed to keep running >>>>> stuff, like Southwest. >>>> >>>> Well ... sometimes an 'obsolete' language as the >>>> base of your operations - kinda like "Latin" - it >>>> doesn't really CHANGE anymore, No COBOL-2025 where >>>> they've changed half the stuff ....... >>>> >>>> As such "obsolete" CAN equal "stability". >>> >>> Like debian? >> >> Debian has 3 levels: stable, testing, and unstable (Sid). >> >> Pick your poison. I used Sid for many years. Currently I use Testing, >> which means sometimes my updates have to be delayed a few hours (as told by >> the aptitude interfaces). > > Oh, cool. I'm using stable after my arch install got nuked. How did your Arch get nuked? Bad SSD like the FikWot I bought for $28 :-< -- The church saves sinners, but science seeks to stop their manufacture. -- Elbert Hubbard