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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: The actual truth is that ...
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 15:54:28 -0500
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On 10/11/2024 9:54 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 10/11/24 10:26 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 10/11/2024 8:05 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 10/11/24 8:19 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2024 6:04 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 10/10/24 9:57 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/10/2024 8:39 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/10/24 6:19 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2024 2:26 PM, wij wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2024-10-10 at 17:05 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09 19:34:34 +0000, Alan Mackenzie said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/8/24 8:49 AM, Andy Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... after a short break.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Richard -- no-one sane carries on an extended 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone they [claim to] consider a "stupid liar".  So 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which are you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sane?  Or stupid enough to try to score points off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone who is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incapable of conceding them?  Or lying when you describe 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter? You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must surely have better things to do.  Meanwhile, you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surely noticed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Peter is running rings around you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other words, you don't understand the concept of defense 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the truth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe, but continuously calling your debating opponent a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> liar, and doing
>>>>>>>>>>>> so in oversized upper case, goes beyond truth and comes 
>>>>>>>>>>>> perilously close
>>>>>>>>>>>> to stalking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Calling a liar a liar is fully justified. I don't know how 
>>>>>>>>>>> often it
>>>>>>>>>>> needs be done but readers of a liar may want to know that 
>>>>>>>>>>> they are
>>>>>>>>>>> reading a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We know Peter Olcott has lied in things that matter.  However, 
>>>>>>>>>> I believe
>>>>>>>>>> his continual falsehoods are more a matter of delusion than 
>>>>>>>>>> mendacity.
>>>>>>>>>> As Mike Terry has said, OP's intellectual capacity is low. 
>>>>>>>>>> Calling him
>>>>>>>>>> a liar in virtually every post is, I think, unwarranted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It detracts from the substance of your posts, and makes
>>>>>>>>>>>> them, for me at least, thoroughly unpleasant to read.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You probably needn't read them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As I said, I mostly don't - which is a pity, since Richard 
>>>>>>>>>> Damon often
>>>>>>>>>> posts stuff worth reading.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As soon you find out that they repeat the same over and over, 
>>>>>>>>>>> neither
>>>>>>>>>>> correcting their substantial errors nor improving their 
>>>>>>>>>>> arguments you
>>>>>>>>>>> have read enough.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>> Mikko
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> olcott deliberately lies (he knows what is told, he choose to 
>>>>>>>>> distort). olcott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When the behavior of DDD emulated by HHH is the measure then:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But since it isn't, your whole argument falls apart.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah a breakthrough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And an admission that you are just working on a lie.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you are unaware of how valid deductive inference works.
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
>>>>
>>>> You can disagree that the premise to my reasoning is true.
>>>> By changing my premise as the basis of your rebuttal you
>>>> commit the strawman error.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> So, how do you get from the DEFINITION of Halting being a behavior of 
>>> the actual machine, to something that can be talked about by a 
>>> PARTIAL emulation with a different final behavior.
>>
>> My whole point in this thread is that it is incorrect
>> for you to say that my reasoning is invalid on the basis
>> that you do not agree with one of my premises.
>>
> 
> The issue isn't that your premise is "incorrect", but it is INVALID, as 
> it is based on the redefinition of fundamental words.
> 

Premises cannot ever be invalid, this is the misuse of a
technical term of the art proving that you are clueless.

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hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer