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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT explains why HHH(DDD) correctly rejects its input even though the executed DDD() halts Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 22:21:42 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <vecq06$14ve$1@dont-email.me> References: <vecntr$hk5$1@dont-email.me> <8e707666d206c9183b8e4ff25e3c0e9e5e5309da@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 05:21:42 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2f696c00f58e5fa7aed5825233c6f706"; logging-data="37870"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ufbMKy3oKQKcDDRRW17+9" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:6eMJ7AeCVsb5z2H14J4H5i9wUOE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <8e707666d206c9183b8e4ff25e3c0e9e5e5309da@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2731 On 10/11/2024 10:12 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 10/11/24 10:46 PM, olcott wrote: >> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e >> >> This link is live for the world. You can click on it >> and try to convince ChatGPT that HHH is wrong to reject >> DDD because the executed DDD does halt. >> >> It will explain your mistake in clear simple language. >> >> *The paper that this refers to* >> Simulating Termination Analyzer H is Not Fooled by Pathological Input D >> https://www.researchgate.net/ >> publication/369971402_Simulating_Termination_Analyzer_H_is_Not_Fooled_by_Pathological_Input_D >> >> > > Like this > > Note, the conclusion, the answer that HHH gives is based on a > theoretical context that (to paraphrase) don't actually exist. > > It admits that DDD does halt, and halt because the HHH that it calls > does what it was supposed to do. > > The only justification for giving the wrong answer is that it is HHH > doesn't need to do what it is defined to do. > > I will ask you, is this the sort of world that you ACTUALLY WANT? > > You have taught Chat GPT that it is ok to lie if you can justify it. > https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e Try to tell ChatGPT that. You don't even have to login. Click on the link. I tried this from my cell phone. The only input that it has is what you can see that I gave it. ChatGPT can explain your mistakes much more clearly than I can. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer