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Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: green bubble syndrome Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 17:34:53 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <veebvs$8lna$1@dont-email.me> References: <xn0oruv2k1siabt002@reader443.eternal-september.org> <ve6sv0$2q45v$1@dont-email.me> <ve7s0q$31vac$1@dont-email.me> <ve7uos$7t6o$2@solani.org> <vebtjl$3pa58$1@dont-email.me> <lmtv4oF2u71U2@mid.individual.net> <vee0md$6nme$1@dont-email.me> <UzwOO.61464$Enpe.23712@fx38.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:34:54 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="31b990ca9d42455f4ca0c58f89512cc1"; logging-data="284394"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+jhbW0U+uU6FFv2dN/EZF9sP5AgU9e0g4=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YFKH/dtnuY9wpxTIUwg6p8LJ68c= sha1:x9X2oHylYw1I3s08lODPbWUPTH0= Bytes: 2657 Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote: > On 2024-10-12 10:22, Chris wrote: >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>> No. That's not how the burden of proof works. The person (or in this >>> case, the website) making the claim is responsible for proving their >>> methodology is sound. And absent of that proof, the rest of us are >>> completely within our right to disregard it as baseless. This really >>> shouldn't need to be explained to educated adults, but here we are. >>> >> >> You've completely misapplied burden of proof. >> >> This isn't an unsubstantiated claim where burden of proof would apply. >> There is proof/evidence here: the result of the survey. >> >> You are welcome to disagree with it, but if you want to make an >> unsubstantiated claim that it is meaningless the onus is now on you. > > The burden is with the survey "maker" to publish method, selection, etc. > for peer review. This isn't a scientific study. It's a survey. The website used a professional outfit called pollfish. https://www.pollfish.com/ I don't know them, but on balance I trust them more than JR's random anecdotes or poor maths skills. > If such does not come forth, then the survey is useless as presented for > the purpose presented and the audience here. > > Can we abandon this subject please? We can...