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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: The actual truth is that ...
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On 10/12/2024 2:00 PM, joes wrote:
> Am Sat, 12 Oct 2024 12:36:03 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 10/12/2024 12:13 PM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Sat, 12 Oct 2024 11:07:29 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 10/12/2024 9:43 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 10/12/24 6:17 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/12/2024 3:13 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 21:13:18 +0000, joes said:
>>>>>>>> Am Fri, 11 Oct 2024 12:22:50 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 12:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 11:06 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 9:54 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 10:26 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 8:05 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/24 8:19 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/11/2024 6:04 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/24 9:57 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2024 8:39 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/10/24 6:19 PM, olcott wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the behavior of DDD emulated by HHH is the measure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since it isn't, your whole argument falls apart.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah a breakthrough.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And an admission that you are just working on a lie.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you are unaware of how valid deductive inference
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can disagree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the premise to my reasoning is true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By changing my premise as the basis of your rebuttal you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit the strawman error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, how do you get from the DEFINITION of Halting being a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior of the actual machine, to something that can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talked about by a PARTIAL emulation with a different final
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My whole point in this thread is that it is incorrect for you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to say that my reasoning is invalid on the basis that you do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not agree with one of my premises.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue isn't that your premise is "incorrect", but it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> INVALID,
>>>>>>>>>>>> as it is based on the redefinition of fundamental words.
>>>>>>>>>>> Premises cannot be invalid.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course they can be invalid,
>>>>>> It is a type mismatch error. Premises cannot be invalid.
>>>>> So "af;kldsanflksadhtfawieohfnapio" is a valid premise?
>>>> "valid" is a term-of-the-art of deductive logical inference. When the
>>>> subject is deductive logical inference one cannot substitute the
>>>> common meaning for the term-of-the-art meaning.
>>>> This is a fallacy of equivocation error.
>>> So "af;kldsanflksadhtfawieohfnapio" is an invalid premise?
>> "invalid" referring to a premise within the terms-of-the-art of
>> deductive logical inference is a type mismatch error use of the term.
>> One could correctly say that a premise is untrue because it is
>> gibberish. One can never correctly say that a premise is invalid within
>> the terms-of-the-art.
> Back to the topic: your premise that the measure of the behaviour of DDD
> is the emulation of it done by HHH is wrong.
> 

I didn't say it exactly that way. Richard thinks that the
way you say it makes a difference. I don't take the time
to pay any attention to any other way to say it than the
way that I did say it.

The only one here besides me that seems to understand the
actual software engineering aspects of this is Mike.

Everyone else here seems to have no deeper understanding
than learn-by-rote from CS textbook.


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