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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded Subject: Diagnostics Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 12:58:02 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <veekcp$9rsj$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 21:58:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d63472ff6b107acd52ba8ce0a97b11d3"; logging-data="323475"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19AZ/SycQMpck3vH2f9cuJd" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:XkROS5PHyVEukxD/FjpFzu4utx8= Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 1956 Typically, one performs some limited "confidence tests" at POST to catch gross failures. As this activity is "in series" with normal operation, it tends to be brief and not very thorough. Many products offer a BIST capability that the user can invoke for more thorough testing. This allows the user to decide when he can afford to live without the normal functioning of the device. And, if you are a "robust" designer, you often include invariants that verify hardware operations (esp to I/Os) are actually doing what they should -- e.g., verifying battery voltage increases when you activate the charging circuit, loopbacks on DIOs, etc. But, for 24/7/365 boxes, POST is a "once-in-a-lifetime" activity. And, BIST might not always be convenient (as well as requiring the user's consent and participation). There, runtime diagnostics are the only alternative for hardware revalidation, PFA and diagnostics. How commonly are such mechanisms implemented? And, how thoroughly?